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OK, it's getting there. Polls will start closing soon. Please use this thread to discuss the returns as they come in.

Good electoral map at C-Span to watch.

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137351

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Polls are closing on East Coast, and I'm so scared I can barely type. This is so important. Let's hold cyber-hands. ;-)

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DonnaLadd

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2004-11-02T18:01:05-06:00

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137352

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Reuters is reporting: Kentucky, Indiana Vote for Bush; Kerry Wins Vermont 12 minutes ago Top Stories - Reuters WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vermont voters on Tuesday backed John Kerry (news - web sites) in the U.S. presidential election, giving the Democrat three electoral votes in his contest with Republican President Bush (news - web sites), television networks projected. Kentucky voters Tuesday backed Bush, giving the president eight electoral votes, CNN and ABC television networks projected. Indiana voters also backed Bush, giving the incumbent an additional 11 electoral votes, the CBS, ABC and NBC television networks projected.

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kate

Date

2004-11-02T18:25:36-06:00

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137353

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Update from Salon Current Electoral Vote: Bush: 34 Kerry: 3 The polls have closed in six states, and as expected, President George W. Bush is projected to win Georgia, Indiana and Kentucky. Sen. John Kerry is projected to win Vermont. Too close too call: South Carolina and Virginia. Tea leaf reader alert: If South Carolina and Virginia are too close too call, that could mean a long night for George Bush. Next up: 7:30 p.m. Ohio, North Carolina and West Virginia and probably New Hampshire.

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kate

Date

2004-11-02T18:28:47-06:00

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137354

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Kate, you're the Philip of voter stats! ;-) Keep 'em coming!

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kaust

Date

2004-11-02T18:39:15-06:00

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137355

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Stepping away from the internets. after this last update from Salon (same link as above, just updated): Current Electoral Vote: Bush: 39 Kerry: 3 The polls have closed in nine states. President George W. Bush is projected to win Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky and West Virginia. Sen. John Kerry is projected to win Vermont. Too close too call: South Carolina, Virginia, Ohio and North Carolina. Tea leaf reader alert: If Virginia and North Carolina are too close too call, that could mean a long night for George Bush. All eyes are still on Ohio. Senate watch: With 600,000 votes cast in Kentucky, Democrat Daniel Mongiardo is leading Republican Jim Bunning by 10 percent. Zogby's prediction, which has Kerry winning, calls for Bush to win in South Carolina, North Carolina and Virginia. so, if any of those swing to Kerry, yay! If Kerry loses Ohio, arg. My spidey sense says it's going to be a while before we get accurate, or at least reportable, results from Ohio. The Zogby chart is a handy dandy guide to when you should worry, and when to celebrate. As is the Salon article. Back to my life, for an hour or so. Then I'll obsessively post more!

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kate

Date

2004-11-02T18:41:07-06:00

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137356

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Illinois for Kerry (no surprise). Obama declared winner. Woo, hoo! At the moment Kerry leads electoral, Bush leads popular. Ahem. Interestingly, South Carolina and Virginia can't yet be called. Long night, yet.

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DonnaLadd

Date

2004-11-02T19:13:31-06:00

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137357

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For the record, Kate, I haven't had a life in months. But hopefully it starts over again tomorrow, and I get my laundry done, etc. Go, Kerry!

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DonnaLadd

Date

2004-11-02T19:14:55-06:00

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137358

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Current from Salon: Nov. 2, 2004 | Current Electoral Vote: Bush: 102 Kerry: 77 The polls have closed in 26 states, but there are no clear signs as to who is winning, and plenty of indications that it will be a long night. President George W. Bush is projected by multiple TV networks to win Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Alabama, South Carolina, North Carolina and Virginia. Sen. John Kerry is projected to win Vermont, Illinois, Connecticut, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maryland, Delaware, the District of Columbia, and three of four electoral votes so far from Maine. Still no projection in these states where polls would now ordinarily be closed, but where many voters are still in line: Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. The polls have also closed in Missouri and Arkansas, but no call has been made. Senate watch: With more than 80 percent of the vote cast in Kentucky, Democrat Daniel Mongiardo is still leading Republican Jim Bunning, but his lead is shrinking. And, as expected, Democrat Barack Obama is the projected Senate race winner in Illinois.

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kate

Date

2004-11-02T19:58:39-06:00

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137359

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These results are in line with Zogby's 5 pm prediction - no surprises yet. Kerry can still win. I think Ohio's the new Florida.

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kate

Date

2004-11-02T20:03:21-06:00

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137360

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We talked a little about holding MS up as a swing stage for at least 20 minutes -- that's about how long it lasted. Looks like the only mystery will be the Graves race -- at 48% the last time we saw, needs 50%.

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Todd Stauffer

Date

2004-11-02T20:38:44-06:00

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137361

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Update from Salon: Current Electoral Vote: Bush: 176 Kerry: 112 10 p.m. and thare are more swing states in play than ever -- Nevada and Iowa have joined the party. President George W. Bush is projected by multiple TV networks to win Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Alabama, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, Kansas, South and North Dakota, Texas, Wyoming, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nebraska and Utah. Sen. John Kerry is projected to win New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, Illinois, Connecticut, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maryland, Delaware, the District of Columbia and three of four electoral votes so far from Maine. New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Missouri, Minnesota and Wisconsin were labeled swing states a long time ago, and they are still living up to their reputation. There is no projection yet for Arkansas, as well, and in a bit of a surprise, Montana hasn't been called either.

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kate

Date

2004-11-02T21:14:43-06:00

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137362

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So, what does it all mean, Kate? It's hard to sort through it from here. You can't flip around with your remote. However, we are among friends here at Soulshine: Joanne Prichard Morris (the original yellow dog Democrat), her friend and novelist Larry L. King, the amazing Carlton Turner of MUGABEE, Rep. Gloria Williamson and all sorts of politicos, and many artists, musicians and so on, Rick and Liz Cleveland just walked in. Right now, we're all hankering for one of the swing states to be decided, like, er, Pennsylvania. It's hard when the damn map keeps going red, even if you know that it's all predictable. This system sucks. Argh. But we are having a good time with good people. Come on down and see us! We'll be here late, it seems. Happy hour prices! Donna

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Todd Stauffer

Date

2004-11-02T21:46:25-06:00

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137363

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Everybody is holding out hope for Florida -- a lot of the Southern counties have supposedly not been added to the total and there's some question as to whether the early voting has been counted in or whether it's coming in county by county. My mom is gonna be pissed if Florida doesn't fall to Kerry. She's been working pretty hard on that.

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Todd Stauffer

Date

2004-11-02T21:49:06-06:00

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137364

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Here's the latest, again from Salon: Nov. 2, 2004 | Current Electoral Vote: Bush: 197 Kerry: 188 Popular Vote: Bush: 30,444,394 (51% total) Kerry: 28,535,091 (48% total) And finally, the first swing state came in -- Pennsylvania goes to John Kerry. All day long, exit polling showed wider margins for Kerry than any other swing state -- this first swing state result supports the early word. President George W. Bush is now projected by multiple TV networks to win Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Alabama, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, Kansas, South and North Dakota, Texas, Wyoming, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nebraska, Utah Arkansas, Missouri and Idaho. Sen. John Kerry is projected to win California, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Illinois, Connecticut, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maryland, Delaware, the District of Columbia and three of four electoral votes so far from Maine. Still to come, New Hampshire, Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nevada, Colorado, Montana, Hawaii, and Idaho. Interestingly, it's worth taking a look back at the last batch of exit polls circulated by our esteemed colleague, Slate. The publication of those polls inspired quite a bit of enthusiasm among Democrats, because if they hold, Kerry wins. Since then, the tightness of the race has encouraged Republicans and set Democratic stomachs to churn. Yet Democrats shouldn't get too depressed. So far, there have been no state results that have contradicted those predictions -- although early numbers from Wisconsin, with some 34 percent of the vote in, do not look promising for Kerry. Meanwhile, the pundits are frothing about Florida. Republican spinners claim that Bush is doing better in key counties than he did in 2000. The Democrats are countering by noting that their huge turnout is taking place in South Florida, and vote totals there may not be counted until.... It may be a long night. Here's an hour-by-hour guide to how the rest of the evening will go. All times Eastern Standard Time: Midnight/1 a.m. Alaska closes. Alaska is Bush territory, but there's also a tightly contested Senate race that might see a rare Democratic pickup. So even if the presidential race is a done deal by the wee hours, true political junkies will have plenty of reason to watch the returns from the North. What's it mean? I think all it means is that Ohio is the new Florida. It's down to the wire. Wisconsin leaning towards Bush is not good. It's a swing state that Zogby had predicted would go for Kerry.

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kate

Date

2004-11-02T22:20:04-06:00

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137365

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Uh, hey, did anybody see that Pistons-Rockets game?

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Dr. S

Date

2004-11-02T22:42:34-06:00

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137366

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No, Dr. S, I didn't see that game? How'd it end up? All I can say is, yesterday was way more fun for me than today will be. My one day of happiness is but a memory. To paraphrase the Daily Show last night, "It's nice to know I live in the America of my dreams. That dream where I wake up screaming."

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kate

Date

2004-11-03T07:02:40-06:00

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137367

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new 2004 democrat logo: http://www.trinitifx.com/pics/2004_democrat.jpg

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phsjr1

Date

2004-11-03T08:51:15-06:00

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137368

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Well, now that we see who couldn't wait to represent the high class of the ruling theocracy -- thanks, Philip. Y'all now own Bush's Pottery Barn, lock, stock and barrel. Have fun with it. The rest of us, however, have work to doóand I truly have great hope this morning. People think I'm crazy, but I do think the next four years will prove very meaningful. And we sure do need a national discussion about "morals" and what that word should mean; let's start that one immediately. I'll be posting more of my thoughts on all this as soon as I have some coffee and collect my thoughts. As you'll see from the issue we sent to the printer yesterday morning, out later today, all of this has been on our brain. What next? For one, forcing a responsible media. Second, actually start listening to problems of every day people before the election cycle. Meantime, though, I got this quote this a.m. in my e-mail from an editor at an alt in North Carolina: "These are the times that try men's souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it Now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict the more glorius the triumph." -The Crisis, 1776 It's very apropos for this morning. Get back to work. And keep the faith.

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DonnaLadd

Date

2004-11-03T09:49:42-06:00