Jackson Free Press

The New York Times is reporting that approval of Bush's handling of the war in Iraq is down to 29 percent—the lowest ever. It also show that next week's election is highly likely to be a referendum on the GOP's handling of the war:

A substantial majority of Americans expect Democrats to reduce or end American military involvement in Iraq if they win control of Congress next Tuesday and say Republicans will maintain or increase troop levels to try to win the war if they hold on to power on Capitol Hill, according to the final New York Times/CBS News poll before the midterm election.

The poll showed that 29 percent of Americans approve of the way President Bush is managing the war, matching the lowest mark of his presidency. Nearly 70 percent said Mr. Bush did not have a plan to end the war, and 80 percent said Mr. Bush's latest effort to rally public support for the conflict amounted to a change in language but not policy.

The poll underlined the extent to which the war has framed the midterm elections. Americans cited Iraq as the most important issue affecting their vote, and majorities of Republicans and Democrats said they wanted a change in approach. Twenty percent said they thought the United States was winning in Iraq, down from a high this year of 36 percent in January.

Even beyond the war, the Times/CBS News poll, like most other polls this fall, contained worrisome indicators for Republicans as they go into the final days of a campaign in which many are bracing for a loss of seats in both the House and the Senate.

In a year when there are many close races, Democrats were more enthusiastic than Republicans about voting and more likely to say they would support their party's candidates, although Republicans were slightly more likely to say they would actually vote.

Fifty percent of independent voters, a closely watched segment of the electorate in such polarized times, said they intended to vote for the Democratic candidate, versus 23 who said they would vote for a Republican.

Among registered voters, 33 percent said they planned to support Republicans, and 52 percent said they would vote for Democrats.

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108223

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I do believe Democrats taking over the House and Senate will be a much better thing than the Neo-Conservative Republicans who seem to want to battle this false war on terror. The war on terror is nothing but a psychological war against the American population. First off let me say this, what is going on in Iraq is NOT a war . . its an occupation . . . an invasion . . an Illegal occupation. This is exactly what Israel has been doing to Palestine ever since the Six-Days war. When was the last time you saw an Iraqi Soldier? Ever since this Neo-Con regime has taken over, they have put the US into a decent into tyranny. 9/11 was an inside job by our US government. There wasn't a Ginormous operation by a caveman in Afganistan orchestrating attacks via 19 guys with box cutters . . But people say: The government would never do that . . . Well, you're wrong. Ever hear of Operation Northwoods? It was a proposed psychological operations against the US population to manipulate our minds to think that Cuba was causing terroist acts in and around the US in the 1960's. Declassified Official Government documents CLEARLY state that the plan included: - Hijacking a commercial airliner, rendevouzing it to an airforce base and remove the passengers. A drone disguised as the airliner would than be flown remote control over cuban waters where the US military would blow it up. They would than say that Cuba did it . . - Sinking a ship US vessel off the coast of Cuba with US military personnel and stage mock funerals for those on it. - Stage terror campaigns in Washington DC and Miami Here's some more info for you if you still believe the governement would never do that: Project for A New American Century. This was a political think tank that was manned by Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz. This organization existed the Clinton years. They planned for US global dominance by: - Staging major simultaneous theater wars. - They openly said they need a new catalyzing event to swing US support to take over the world. An event like a new Pearl Harbor to bring revolutionary change. One year later, the attacks of 9/11 happen. Ok, I'm ready to see your guys responses . . .

Author

MoreRockin

Date

2006-11-02T20:03:36-06:00

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108224

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Unlike your little excursion into Kennedy-era Anti-Communism, there is plenty of evidence for the Arab hijacking of airplanes. Besides, this article is about the election, and I can bet you that if something like that had occurred, we'd be seeing evidence now, right before the election with all the republicans being named and shamed on TV. You don't keep a secret like that.

Author

Ironghost

Date

2006-11-02T20:35:10-06:00

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108225

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Thanks for deleting my response . . . . . . . Why would you do that? Can't handle the truth?

Author

MoreRockin

Date

2006-11-02T23:30:52-06:00

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108226

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You left out the CFR, Bilderberg Group, and Hitlers secret antarctic base as well. Actually if you look at the pentagon and its alignment with the world trade centers and the washington monument, you will notice that it is the same alignement as that of the great pyramid, the sphinx and the other great pyramids which also matches the same alignment of the face on mars and the pyramids and cydonia. these alignments are also exactly the same as that of the stars in Orion's belt. Coincidence? I think not morerockin. You're on the right track. Keep up the good work.

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Kingfish

Date

2006-11-02T23:40:08-06:00

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108227

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Thanks Kingfish . . . you know, I've always wanted to get into the Numerology and the "Signology" to better understand the ways of the arrogant Illuminati. I just watched a video about David Rockefeller and CFR a few weeks back . . . you know, people think that the richest people in the world is Bill Gates, but what they don't know about is the Global Elite. . . the Rothschilds and Rockefellers are probably Trillionaires. Kingfish, have you discovered Alex Jones and Infowars.com?

Author

MoreRockin

Date

2006-11-03T00:50:55-06:00

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108228

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You should read Shadows of Power by Perloff. Its gets into the real money and who controls the scenes. What is funny about the liberals on this site is how they don't realize they are tools. They want to raise taxes on the "rich" but what they don't realize is the super rich they really want to tax have their money tied up in tax exempt foundations which the so called "rich" person can not do. The super rich are usually liberal and usually back their raising taxes schemes as it limits the number of people who can enter their class. One way you can tell Bush is their tool is that he is opposed by both true liberals and conservatives. The next step these types will push for is to react to an outbreak of "domestic" terrorism they will have fomented. Once domestic terrorism is judged to be a crisis, the war on terror will be expanded and the COnstitution will be destroyed.

Author

Kingfish

Date

2006-11-03T00:58:59-06:00

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108229

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I knew listening to Art Bell would come in handy one day. :D

Author

Ironghost

Date

2006-11-03T02:00:12-06:00

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108230

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I've got to turn you guys onto Alex Jones . . . go checkout Infowars.com!

Author

MoreRockin

Date

2006-11-03T08:48:35-06:00

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108231

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Look, conspiracy theories are nice and all. They're fun to invent. But they all have problems when you bring them into reality. They generally require you to believe a man whom half the planet believes to be a qualified moron (Bush) to suddenly direct a multi-billion dollar, multi-national conspiracy with thousands of people involved and delicate timing and essential top-secret secrecy all for a temporary advantage which faded within six months?

Author

Ironghost

Date

2006-11-03T08:58:49-06:00

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108232

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Do you not believe that the Government has the media by the balls? If not, I can show you an article that Bush has spent 1.6 Billion Dollars on Fake news . . . . The was busted in the 70's for paying off media to write whatever they wanted . . . .ever her of The Church Committee or Operation Mockingbird? They have used the TV to make us believe anything they want . . . for example, a moon landing.

Author

MoreRockin

Date

2006-11-03T12:45:18-06:00

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108233

Comment

you left out MK Ultra

Author

Kingfish

Date

2006-11-03T12:49:39-06:00

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108234

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Here's the Bush Article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/13/AR2006021301897.html

Author

MoreRockin

Date

2006-11-03T12:56:05-06:00

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108235

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[quote]They have used the TV to make us believe anything they want . . . for example, a moon landing.[/quote] *snerk* Okay, you've shot your credibility with me. Good Day. I don't argue with conspiracy theorists.

Author

Ironghost

Date

2006-11-03T20:03:12-06:00

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108236

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We've played putt-putt golf with Fred Haise. Thank god: he was the only one out of all of us that could hit the hole! But sorry, I believe him over you. Art Bell/George Noory is on somewhere. I'm sure you can find the show.

Author

Lady Havoc

Date

2006-11-03T23:01:54-06:00

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108237

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Wow . . . you guys must not like conversations when someone brings fact into the equation. I mean, we can sit here and talk mindless fluff but why not have handle the facts . . Credibility??? I'm not the one who wrote that article about Bush spending 1.6 Billion Dollars on Fake news . . it was The Washington Post . . As for a Moon Landing, had you guys done research instead of beat yourslef over the head with the TV than you'd know something about the Van Allen Radiation Belt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt Fact is, several of you don't like the facts . . . wahh wahh wahh

Author

MoreRockin

Date

2006-11-04T19:57:41-06:00

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108238

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MoreRockin, the very Wikipedia page you cite says: Proponents of the Apollo Moon Landing Hoax have argued that space travel to the moon is impossible because the Van Allen radiation would kill or incapacitate an astronaut who made the trip. James Van Allen himself, now deceased (August 9, 2006), dismissed these ideas. In practice, Apollo astronauts who travelled to the moon spent very little time in the belts and received a harmless dose. [6]. Nevertheless NASA deliberately timed Apollo launches, and used lunar transfer orbits that only skirted the edge of the belt over the equator to minimise the radiation. Astronauts who visited the moon probably have a slightly higher risk of cancer during their lifetimes, but still remain unlikely to become ill because of it. No offense, but I'm not into conspiracy theories--and somebody who greets me with "you guys must not like conversations when someone brings fact into the equation" isn't exactly laying the groundwork for a persuasive argument. Cheers, TH

Author

Tom Head

Date

2006-11-04T20:11:21-06:00

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108239

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LessRockin: I consider your comments about my lack of eagerness to "debate" with your "facts" insulting. I know the facts, and I've argued your brand of misguided beliefs before.

Author

Ironghost

Date

2006-11-04T20:34:47-06:00

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108240

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hkNnltFfR4 In 1959 Bill Kaysing was privy to a study made by the Russians. The Russians discovered that the radiation on the moon would require astronauts to be clothed in four feet of lead to avoid being killed. Why didn't NASA heed their warnings? Did you know that the US Government tried to blast a hole in the belt 248 miles above Earth in 1962? During Operation Starfish Prime a Megaton Nuclear Bomb was used to try and force an unnatural corridor through the Van Allen Belt... Unfortunately, the radiation levels actually got worse, not better. What they created was a third belt that was 100 times more intense than the natural belts, and as estimated by Mary Bennett in 'Dark Moon - Apollo and the Whistle-Blowers, by 2002 this artificial zone will still have 25 times more radiation than the other 2 belts. There is no agreement to how wide these radiation belts actually are. Dr James Van Allen, the discoverer of the belts estimated that they were at least 64,000 miles deep, but NASA say they are only 24,000 miles deep. Each Apollo craft spent approximately 4 hours within the belts. So to what lengths did NASA take to shield the astronauts against the radiation? Its accepted that a minimum of 10 cm width of aluminium would be needed at the very least to keep out radiation. However the walls of the Apollo craft and capsule were made as thin and as light as possible and as a result the craft initially could not carry enough air inside to withstand the equivalent to sea level air pressure. NASA had to reduce air pressure inside the cabin to cope. Here are the official stats from a NASA website: (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/frame.html) The radiation would have greatly affected the film that was shot on the Moon. Physicist Dr David Groves Ph.D., has carried out radiation tests on similar film and found that the lowest radiation level (25 rem) applied to a portion of the film after exposure made the image on the film almost entirely obliterated. Why didn't that happen to the Apollo films? Probably the most convincing argument however about the dangers of radiation to astronauts comes from NASA themselves. Read this report made on 8th September, 2005. It makes very interesting reading, especially when you have a number of sceptics like I have breathing down my neck trying to claim otherwise!

Author

MoreRockin

Date

2006-11-04T20:42:26-06:00

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108241

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'Cause the films weren't radiated. It's easy. [quote]Did you know that the US Government tried to blast a hole in the belt 248 miles above Earth in 1962? [/quote] I give you this. I'm afraid it's fiction. Lovely movie, however. You know, the rest of this really should go in it's own thread. If anyone wants to waste time on it. You'll just claim we're afraid to face facts. Nonsense. We have the facts.

Author

Ironghost

Date

2006-11-04T23:14:15-06:00