Jackson Free Press

Update: Podcast of Ben Allen's 9/6/06 Press Conference is available here.

Councilwoman Margaret Barrett-Simon told the Jackson Free Press that she and Councilman Leslie McLemore will bring an emergency item before City Council on Tuesday calling for an investigation of allegations that Mayor Frank Melton and a group of youths destroyed a Ridgeway home two weeks ago. Barrett-Simon said they had resolved on this course of action even before Council President Ben Allen's press conference this afternoon, during which he explained his reasons for refusing to support such an investigation.

Because the call for an investigation is an emergency item, it would require a unanimous affirmative vote by City Council. This is unlikely considering the position of Allen and other council members, but it would require those members to make their opposition to an investigation formal. A closed executive session on the matter dissolved in acrimony on Tuesday, but there was no vote.

Allen held a press conference at 2 p.m. on Friday at City Hall. "The reason why we called this meeting today is to assure the public that your council president and I know the council is very troubled and very disturbed about the allegations. But I want you to understand something. When wrongdoing is accused of a public official, it's a very different situation than when wrongdoing is accused of a non-public official. Law enforcement standards are held a bit differently," Allen said.

Allen was careful to stress that he was speaking only for himself.

"I wanted to explain to you personally my silence on this and why it has happened. The City Council has the power of investigative authority. Irrespective of what you've heard on talk radio, it's a very serious situation. The City Council has sobpeana power, taking statements under oath, similar to what you see in Congress," Allen continued.

"We did not feel then, nor do I feel now, that allegations of such a serious nature should be investigated by your City Council. I still don't think that; I will never think that. I was told when this first broke ... that if there was merit to this, there would be an official investigation. It has happened. As we speak today, there are serious interviews going on regarding this entire thing. But they're not going to be going on in the scope of--for lack of a better word--public spectacle. ... One law that I don't think works is the power of City Council to launch an investigation on a simple majority vote. ... I did not think then, nor do I think now, that it would have served your city well for us to go over litigious information, alleged civil or even criminal information, because anything that is said in a public forum could then come back and be used against the city of Jackson. This will end up probably--maybe--in court. ... I don't think that's our role."

Watch here for further updates and a podcast of Ben Allen's remarks.

Previous Comments

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123225

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As I predicted, the television coverage was reduced to "he said-she said" in a respective 5 second, 7 second and 8 second actual segment (depending on the network). Please upload the JFP podcast (when it becomes available) and hear my entire delivery when it ALL becomes available. What troubles me greatly (and I have spoken to one of the reporters there), is that they "clip" what they wish, and make no effort (imho) to simply tell the naked truth. They ADMITTEDLY sway their "stories" to jive with their preconceived opinions....(STRAIGHT OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS). Hear the podcast, and give me your thoughts. Ben

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Ben Allen

Date

2006-09-08T19:05:21-06:00

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123226

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Well, I can think of a whole bunch of people who aren't around this town due to media bias and the lack of fair coverage. Good people. Heck, you even had people making claims of falsifying public information in every media outlet available in Jackson, without plausible proof and without filing a complaint with the FBI. Jackson "feels" unsafe right now. It didn't "feel" so unsafe just two years ago. Stats be darned! Now we got a crime epidemic, budget woes (2 freaking mil!), and a mayor with very questionable accusations filed against him. Let's just throw this losing hand away, and get a new deal. I truly think that you (Ben) or another council member can do much better job, and appoint much better personnel to move this city forward. This City is much bigger than any one man. This town will always be bigger than Frank Melton, for better or for worst.

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pikersam

Date

2006-09-08T20:26:00-06:00

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123227

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Pikersam, this is completely off topic from the original post, so I hope it is the last past on this point other than what you may post in reply. I won't post back. We need a mill increase. Your langauge about, at least what seems that way, people leaving the city because of "media bias" and "lack of coverage" borders on the hilarious, or rather is plain hilarious (to quote: "Well, I can think of a whole bunch of people who aren't around this town due to media bias and the lack of fair coverage." If so, then media rating are driving people out of cities across the county. Come on. I would be thankful for some of the city leaders you have. They are about to deliver some things you would have never had without them. I would be very thankful.

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MAllen

Date

2006-09-08T20:53:19-06:00

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123228

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No, I think he is right, MAllen. Media bias has definitely driven people out of the city—from those who are scared to death by crime sensationalism to good public servants whom the media relentlessly pounded and even misquoted. People often just do not take poor media coverage seriously. This is why we pound media literacy so strongly. People need to demand better if they are really interested in seeing Jackson become all it can be. And I sincerely hope this WILL NOT be the last post on this topic. It's a vital discussion.

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DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-08T20:58:39-06:00

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123229

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message lost, i'll write fast, ha pikersam smart, ladd really smart. you go. love it. do not watch tv my ownself but somehow the crime thing does just filter down anyway. maybe internet, who knows. Jackson deserves way better governing. keep their feet to the fire -well that just means keep accountable, not ouch. wedo have to watch what we say.. hehe. onward.

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sunshine

Date

2006-09-08T21:44:43-06:00

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123230

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Well, I actually meant the former administration, his staff, and many of the good employees that the city had working for them. All the cops, the lobbying firm, etc... It's kind of "good for the goose..." when you say: "What troubles me greatly (and I have spoken to one of the reporters there), is that they "clip" what they wish, and make no effort (imho) to simply tell the naked truth. They ADMITTEDLY sway their "stories" to jive with their preconceived opinions....(STRAIGHT OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS). BAllen I guess unintentionally I came across as meaning Jacksonians. You said it, MAllen, when you said a "mill increase." A mill has been expected for a few years now. But, when your mayor is out of control you don't write him a blank check (so to speak guys...!). Not when you want to raise ungodly amounts of cash for the schools. Not when you mayor is abusing city resources, and is mismanaging other departments! But, I am a good citizen and will pay whatever tax - I choose to live in Jackson! With that said: I would be thankful for some of the city leaders you have. They are about to deliver some things you would have never had without them. I would be very thankful. MAllen Listen, I "had it all" in many other places (smaller and bigger), and moved back. Things were getting ready to happen here when I moved, and I'm sure they will eventually. That's great. I don't ever want to live in a city where they don't quest for progress! But, I feel like I have given to this city a whole bunch more than what I am getting back in services, upkeep, a sense of community, and sound/fair leadership. The J Hiedels of the world are great. But, don't try to make us think this is a product of Frank. This City was ripe for development, the governor gets MS attention, and we had plenty of "stuff" going on before Katrina or Melton. Katrina sure hasn't hurt Jackson economically, has it? It'a a stretch to even try to attribute a fraction of it to Melton. This city is way bigger than Frank!

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pikersam

Date

2006-09-08T21:55:26-06:00

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123231

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Thanks, Sunshine. I was at the press conference today. I appreciated some of El Presidente's comments, but ultimately they were totally unconvincing. As we say in our editorial this week, the line is drawn in the sand. Actually, it was drawn a long time back, and members of City Council would not challenge the mayor in a meaningful way, and a public way, in order to build public trust. They seemed among those afraid to challenge him. I don't buy the liability argument at. all. If Mr. Allen and the others were worried about this mayor getting the city sued, they would have done something a long time ago when the writing was first on the wall. Cheers to Margaret and Leslie. They have my utmost respect for speaking out as they are doing. The four Council members who will not call for an investigation, not so much, not this time. And I don't believe they truly comprehend how important, politically and otherwise, taking a stand on behalf of the citizens right now is. Most importantly: because it's the *right* thing to do. I still like Ben as a person, but I do not respect the decisions he has made this week. As an elected official, he should express outrage. I haven't heard it, yet.

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DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-08T21:59:27-06:00

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123232

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And MAllen, there is no reason to be "thankful" for this administration. They are an unmitigated disaster, over all. Jimmy Heidel seems OK, but his going along with the whole Gene Phillips conversation, not to mention the way he's being paid as a contractor, are black marks against him. The good stuff is happening *despite* this administration, and everyone knows it. My biggest prayer is that this mess can be fixed in some way before the development efforts, in place for so long before this group took power, fall apart.

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DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-08T22:02:23-06:00

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123233

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Oh, and don't forget all that "outrage" Mr. Allen has been more than happy to express on talk radio over the years. His suddenly going soft on crime, when it's the mayor accused of committing it, makes no sense.

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DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-08T22:04:21-06:00

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123234

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Yes, the thugish behavior of the mayor and his "guests" ranks way above any email detailing a purse snatching at Maywood Mart! I'm outraged at both. But, I am more outraged when an elected official commits the crime. We have to have some kind of decorum out of our higest elected officials.

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pikersam

Date

2006-09-08T22:30:34-06:00

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123235

Comment

Again....please listen to the entire podcast, MAKE UP YOUR OWN... OWN... OWN ...minds and get back to me. I am truly interseted in your opinions....not the opinions of those you wish to please....YOUR opinions. Listen....yourself...to the entire 35 minute press conference. Then talk to me.

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Ben Allen

Date

2006-09-08T23:01:40-06:00

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123236

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I want to know why this "city is poised for success?" Seriously. It certainly isn't something that happens overnight. Sorry, all the good that is going to happen can never be traded off for lawlessness. Good to hear a rational argument for the councils decision. Still hope we change quarterbacks at halftime though.

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pikersam

Date

2006-09-08T23:19:05-06:00

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123237

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"In America, you're innocent until proven guilty." -- Ben Allen, on why the City Council has not taken a position on the Melton accusations. "I'm not going to ruin their lives over a damn thug." -- Frank Melton, on why he refused to fire officers caught on tape punching an 18-year-old suspect who was later released without indictment--never proven guilty. "f we find some more people who are selling drugs out of their house there is no telling what will happen." -- Frank Melton, on the destruction of Evans Welch's home. Although Welch has been charged on various (primarily misdemeanor) counts, he has never been convicted of possession with intent, or (as far as I can tell) of any other charges. So I would respectfully say that in America, you're not innocent until proven guilty if you're poor, black, and the mayor is Frank Melton. "Innocent" means harassment, beatings, and having one's house destroyed. Ben, I listened to the audio file and I can't tell whether you're tapdancing around this or not. Bluntson is on record essentially endorsing the home demolition. Melton is unrepentant. I do remember landing on Haley Barbour for not pardoning Clyde Kennard, only to find that he was aware of an attempt to get the charges overturned retroactively--a step better than a pardon. So I am well aware of the fact that justice can happen through multiple channels, and that sometimes the most immediate channel is not the best. But at the very least, I would expect some definitive statement from the City Council that they condemn these methods and will not tolerate this kind of behavior from the mayor, law enforcement personnel, and the miscellaneous armed muscle he surrounds himself with. Another thing: Waiting for a conviction would have let Richard Nixon off the hook. Waiting for a conviction would have let Bill Clinton off the hook. If you're waiting for a conviction, then you are applying a standard towards Frank Melton that is--to put it mildly--exceptionally gentle compared to the standard we generally apply towards public officials. So color me skeptical. I still can't believe that if Evans Welch were a "person of consequence," this wouldn't be handled any differently. If it were your house Melton had taken a sledgehammer to, I can't believe we would be dealing with technicalities over whether the City Council should function as an investigative body or not. Cheers, TH

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Tom Head

Date

2006-09-08T23:34:51-06:00

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123238

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Ben, I listened to the press conference very closly. The thing that jumped out at me was how u talked about all the positive things going on and there being no report. Well just like FM invites the media out when he is making a fool of himself he could invite them to hear about the positive things going on. He has a direct link to the TV stations so why not use it. You as president could do the same thing. U took time for this press conference so why not give positive news? U are also a blogger why not write? there are a lot of people who don't understand how this city gov. works help them out. I wish you would stop dancing around on FM and his foolishness and ask the public to help the council rein him in. I know a lot of Jacksonians who would be glad to do this. I am also glad that businessmen are looking at green instead of foolish people and are hoping thaat the citizens will have enough sense to never go down this road again.

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jada

Date

2006-09-09T00:20:39-06:00

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123239

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TH said it better that me but anyone can justify bad behavior that does not make it right. I wonder if Ditto had acted in this manner what would have been the outcome. any thoughts anyone?

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jada

Date

2006-09-09T00:25:56-06:00

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123240

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There was a time when I truly respected Ben Allen, even when his politics were at odds with my own. I respected him for being consistent, often in the face of political retribution. He once appeared to have the courage of his convictions to the extent that he was neither shy nor reticent in stating them, irrespective of political ramifications that were sure to come. In my opinion, the Ben Allen of old had the guts and balls to stand up to Kenneth Stokes (who now--just like Allen--has greatly betrayed the public trust and, sad to say, the damage is totally irreparable. I well remember Ben Allen's business being burglarized and his Cadillac stolen. And I well remember when many of my friends and I sympathized with him when he blasted his shotgun at an intruder. He was rightfully passionate about feeling violated by those who destroyed and stole his property. Fast forward a couple of years later and the 'new' Ben Allen is a sad cariacature of his former self...the one I once respected. How can he now not feel outrage over an elected public official (the charlatan disguised as the mayor of our fair city) who, despite solemly swearing to uphold the law of the land, has proven to be a night-riding marauder eerily reminiscent of the KKK of days thankfully gone by. Where is the same sense of outrage that he and so many others promptly (and properly) voiced about the robbery of the 90-something-year-old white former schoolteacher (and neighbor of Ben Allen)? Ben Allen has been rapid-fire quick to bemoan the perception that too many issues fall prey to the "race card". Yet, when the time came for him to stand up and be counted, he apparently seemed to value the the white former schoolteacher much more than Evans Welch! As for Ben Allen's advice for us to *listen to the entire podcast, MAKE UP YOUR OWN...MINDS...then talk to me...*, I don't need to listen to another utterance from you, Ben Allen, because in the words of a writer whose identity I can't recall right now, 'WHAT YOU ARE SPEAKS SO LOUDLY UNTIL I CANNOT HEAR WHAT IT IS YOU['RE TRYING TO SAY!" Suffice it to say, then, that I o longer support Ben Allen and I will doggedly seek to spread the word to all who listen that Ben is a gutless, cowardly Frank Melton "yes-man". God help us all...particularly Ben Allen.

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Kacy

Date

2006-09-09T01:49:34-06:00

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123241

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I'm really interested in putting some work into understanding Ben's position here, because it really doesn't make much sense to me given his history. Not that Stokes' position on this does, either. If you told me that Allen and Stokes would be united today in their refusal to investigate a mayor for allegedly tearing an occupied home apart, a mayor who had also endorsed the beating of at least two unindicted suspects, I'd think you were out of your mind. (The N-JAM blog, incidentally, has gone from pretending to be outraged over the Welch business to being openly gleeful about it. I guess Alan slipped up so badly on Kim Wade that he realized he may as well come clean.) What would probably lighten the criticism a little bit would be if you laid out, specifically, what you feel could go wrong if the City Council investigates. The press conference leaves me with the impression that you're mainly worried about saving Melton's bacon in the event that he's innocent, but he has endorsed the action and hasn't issued any kind of clear and specific blanket denial that would even establish that he disputes the claims being made. In fact, he has treated the victim and everyone else involved--including civil libertarians who are just doing their job and trying to protect the Constitution--with so much open contempt that it's hard to see how anyone would be working to distance Melton from the situation. Come on, Ben, this is a mayor who threatened to arrest the ACLU just for being concerned about his previous behavior. His response to the Welch situation was that you can expect it to happen again. There's a point at which you need to just let people sink, and stop enabling their bad behavior by protecting them. I think you've got a hard case to make if you're trying to argue that we haven't reached that point with Melton yet. Cheers, TH

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Tom Head

Date

2006-09-09T03:03:21-06:00

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123242

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Ben Allen, What do you have to say to Jennifer Sutton, who owns the house on Ridgeway that Frank and his Sledgehammer Gang allegedly destroyed ? Not only can Jennifer not rent out the half of the duplex that Evans Welch was renting, she can't rent out the other side of the duplex either. It's covered with yellow police tape and is a popular media and interested citizen drive by attraction. It's also located in a neighborhood that appears to be scared to death of Melton's retribution...and that isn't protected by the City council. What if your family member owned this property? Would you be standing by saying that it wasn't the City Council's responsibility to investigate?? Jennifer Sutton lives in that neighborhood. She's subject to who knows what kind of retribution? Yet she's standing up to the Mayor and City Hall! Ben, you're a white affluent male and you're cow towing. Please rethink your position. Think back to when you were more concerned about what was right for your constituents rather than your own public image.

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JAR

Date

2006-09-09T03:10:19-06:00

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123243

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The Council's legal power to investigate its members was not given arbitrarily, but precisely for this kind of crisis. The Council has heard numerous allegations of terrorism being committed by mayor Melton, and these allegations are supported by persuasive physical evidence. Citizens across Jackson are saying they're panicked, and some are saying they're buying shotguns just in case the mayor knocks on their doors in the middle of the night. Not street criminals, mind you; the mayor. People are begging the Council for relief. Panic and a sense of inevitable anarchy are spreading. And the Council can sincerely say this isn't the time to conduct an investigation? I've heard the argument that the Council shouldn't conduct an investigation because its findings could be used against the city should the city be sued over these assaults. The Council should be concerned first with justice and civil stability, not civil liability. Please, if evidence exists that the mayor and the JPD are systematically terrorizing citizens, find it! You have a duty to uncover such evidence if you think it might exist, not sweep it under the carpet because you're afraid the city will actually be held liable. By the way, I respect Ben Allen's decision to come forward on his own to make a statement to the press. He said other council members were "made aware" of the conference, which to me means that in knowing of it they understood they were invited to participate--yet Mr. Allen was the only one who showed up.

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Brent Cox

Date

2006-09-09T07:51:19-06:00

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123244

Comment

BTW: Since the Convention Center is such an anchor in the development that is going on downtown, tell us where was Melton, Blunston, Tillman, Heidel, Danks, and the rest of his "clique" when the City was lobbying to get the chance to vote for the Convention Center? How many of them helped to get the vote out? Seriously! Look you may as well call the Convention Center the "Harvey J. Johnson Convention Center" once it is built. This City wouldn't have a Convention Center if he wasn't on board for it originally. You could have had all the N-Jax cheerleaders you wanted! Everything you mentioned that is coming downtown was mentioned as "bi-products of having a Convention Center" by the past administration when they argued in favor of the tax. The one exception is the arena. Those who pay attention are not fooled that Melton is some great catalyst for economic growth. The catalyst began 10 years ago! It is just that many N'Jam'ers and Metro residents didn't want to believe that the first black mayor could do a good job. So, you guys did a fine job in making sure that is what we heard. Where were you when the crime stats were down, and projects were going on downtown? Did you get up and scream that none of the good news was getting out or did you pile on the mayor and Jackson with the rest of the nay-sayers? Send us the tapes of your show if you think otherwise. And if having to ask questions to Department heads through Burton(??) helped keep my tax dollars low, kept increasing the police ranks, and kept money in the bank then I think that is a small concession our Council Members can make. Moving forward so we can focus on what is the problem today. Melton broke the law and now a named witness is saying Melton also tore up the house. Look Blunston owns houses over there (look it up) on and near Ridgeway, and Tillman has more rentals in this town than God! Are they confident that their properties are drug free, tip-top shape, and renters who are upstanding citizens without any arrests? Can you say double standard for FOF's (Friends of Franks)? Cut your losses.

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pikersam

Date

2006-09-09T07:54:06-06:00

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123245

Comment

I just don't know how to take all that is being said and done at this point! Much of it appears to me to be insensitive and in downright denial of the true state of feelings in Jackson. We have a long way to go to heal racially and this Administration has set progress, in that area, back by 25 to 30 years IMHO. I try to imagine the deep and widening splits in our police and fire departments. Both had a majority of their members actively working to get Melton elected. What we are seeing in the division of the City Council is probably mild compared to the internal struggles of our critically needed departments. Some are retiring earlier than necessary. Many are actively looking elsewhere. Some have been made so miserable that their departures were hastened. Most of these departures are a true loss to the City's effectiveness. Having to watch a city being dismantled person by person and service by service is one of the most devastating events I've ever experienced. Watching the 'sharks' circle, waiting and pouncing on city largese and some of the Council's willingness to abet these actions is very difficult. Watching some of the Council's unwillingness to at least attempt to curb Melton's "erratic" behavior, his "unorthodox" methods is a severe disappointment. Caught Evers on the evening news and he at least had the sense to tell Melton to return the Mobile Command Unit to where it belonged and leave it there (at least he claims to have done so). Would have been nice to hear the whole Council issue this advice instead of just Marchand Chrisler's brave attempt to curb its use before the news broke about Ridgeway Street. Don't even get me started on the money and why the City is in such a sad state financially. Agree with Pike, Council, CUT YOUR LOSSES!!

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ChrisCavanaugh

Date

2006-09-09T09:00:07-06:00

ID

123246

Comment

Right, Pike. Witnesses also told us this week that Mr. Melton went to the MCC and got his "Walking Tall" stick and went through the house breaking out windows and breaking furniture and the like with it. The kids came after he did that with the sledgehammers. There are also reports that one of the bodyguards broke in the back door, but we're still working on that one.

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DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-09T09:22:12-06:00

ID

123247

Comment

In the link that Pike sent WLBT states "In the past seven months Jackson police have been called out to the Ridgeway Street home on three separate dates." It is amazing that the JPD can get these stats out, when they can not get the stats on there own web page, or with SafeCity. And these stats do not say if there where arrest or if the calls where in concern to Evans Welch. If the calls were not in concern to Evans Welch but some others, who where taking advantage of his mental disability, then why did the JPD not help him out.

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malt

Date

2006-09-09T09:58:48-06:00

ID

123248

Comment

You know, Ben, I just went to the Other Blog and one of the hardcore regulars pointed out that with this being an election year, "(t)here are no real good options for the anti-Melton jihadists here." Peterson becomes too politically vulnerable, and even if she pursues the case, Swan Yerger will not rule against Melton "even for jaywalking" in an election year. Hood is also facing reelection, and I find it highly unlikely that he will do anything. The antiintelligentsia over there are also convinced that the federal government has shown no interest, despite early indications to the contrary, but here again, these are people who think God hid the dinosaur bones to lead sinners astray, so I don't expect Kant's Critique of Pure Reason. Having eliminated the legal remedies, the folks over there are openly gleeful about the City Council decision because it means that Those People can get the Bull Connor treatment with impunity, which is what they prayed for every night by their little bedsides during the mayoral campaign to begin with. But the folks over there do have one significant point: By not investigating this, the City Council passes the buck--and, I have to believe, consciously passes the buck--to more politically vulnerable prosecutorial authorities who will face politically vulnerable judges. I'm reminded of the Scottsboro case, where the only judge to make the right decision and do something about the glorified lynchings of those young men, Judge James Horton, was defeated in his reelection bid the next year (after being unchallenged in previous bids). In that situation, the feds did in fact intervene. They may this time. But it would be a sad situation if it has to come to that. Whether you intend for this to be a coverup or not, Ben, this will be a de facto coverup. By choosing not to investigate, and not to even threaten investigation in the future, the City Council has chosen a path that will most likely mean that Melton can abuse suspects with impunity in the future. Maybe your motives really are pure, and maybe you really don't want to sweep this under the rug. But if we're still in this situation a year from now, I'll know exactly who to blame for it. Cheers, TH

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Tom Head

Date

2006-09-09T12:14:40-06:00

ID

123249

Comment

I hope that the council can see that Melton has disrupted and divided the very heart of the city's safety. ChrisCavanaugh made a very good point about Melton's methodical division of the police and fire departments. These two departments do not need the internal strife that they are suffering through right now. PD needs and DESERVES leadership, not just some figurehead that is afraid to speak without the mayor's approval. The police department is operating on automatic pilot and that's not good because the criminals have sensed it also. The fire chief reminds me of the Gray-Daniels commerical with the dummy (the fire chief being the dummy). Has anyone ever listened to him speak? What a joke. And then there's the mayor himself who we wish would not speak at all because when he does it either a stupid comment or a costly statement. I'll be glad to see that trio take their show on the road because they have overstayed their welcome here in Jackson.

Author

lance

Date

2006-09-09T13:42:54-06:00

ID

123250

Comment

Well, Tom, N-JAM is deliciously and profoundly wrong on at least one of those points (again). But I must refrain from telling you which one. ;-) You have to hand it to them, though: They make asinine and misinformed statements with very admirable conviction, considering how often they have to chomp on their words. More chomping on the horizon.

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DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-09T15:53:28-06:00

ID

123251

Comment

ben may be right that meltons recent rampage exposes the city to signifigant money judgments.one way that a city can be found liable under section 1983 is if the official who committed the civil rights violation is the final policy or decision maker. arguably anything that melton does as mayor that harms someone unconstitiutinally is automatically imputed to the city.allen ought to think about getting the city to take out a policy of liability insurance specifically covering meltons actions.notably, the city is presently self insured and was that way during the previous regime,when claims aginst the city for illegal actions of its officers were neither numerous nor egregious.

Author

chimneyville

Date

2006-09-09T16:00:47-06:00

ID

123252

Comment

Yes, I can see that. But the question here is whether or not the Council calling for an investigation would make the city more liable (not that I think that's the highest concern at this juncture; we're too far down the road to suddenly get all worried about liability. It's time to get the heads out of the sand. The campaign alone was filled with SO many warning signs about the trouble Melton was going to bring on this city. But most Melton supporters seemed oh-so-romanced by the idea that he was going to, somehow, run the "thugs" out of town. The remarkable part is how many people didn't seem to care, or want to know, if serious allegations about him were true.) On the liability front, it seems to me that anything the city would be liable for is already done (or not done, as it were). And why should we believe that the city attorney's office, headed by a Melton crony who helped him hide public records for over a year, is going to give Council good advice about the "liability" of calling for an investigation of the mayor? We've got a big credibility problem on that front. Has anyone out there witnessed Sarah O'Reilly-Evans try to *stop* the mayor from doing all this crazy stuff over the months? Chief Anderson? He's surrounded himself with yes-men and women, and it's gotten us to this point. Thank God people are starting to listen and see what we've been trying to tell people now for a year and a half. I'll repeat what we said on April 20m 2995, Houston, We Have a Problem.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-09T16:15:11-06:00

ID

123253

Comment

The Clarion-Ledger editorials are getting tougher and tougher against Melton. But, I ask The Clarion-Ledger once again: Where were YOU doing the campaign? Why didn't you report on the real Frank Melton? The same man was there doing crazy stuff then, too. The same man headed MBN, violated people's constitutiounal rights, broke in doors, made questionable arrests, went around the police. Where were you? Why did The Clarion-Ledger neglect its responsibilities as the Fourth Estate? It is job to tell people what candidates are REALLY like. Why did The Clarion-Ledger and other media hide this side of Frank Melton? This is most certainly not "new territory," as they prevaricate in their editorial. They know it. We know it. Most importantly, when is The Clarion-Ledger going to take responsibility for its bad campaign reporting and its omissions? When is that paper going to apologize to readers for not sharing the whole story about Mr. Melton?

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-09T16:22:43-06:00

ID

123254

Comment

arguably the city council having an investigative hearing on the ridgeway and upper level incidents could benefit the city on damage exposure for lawsuits that might arise from the incidents.a jury might not be as inclined to sock it to the city traesury if they saw the incidents solely as the actions of one crazed maniac----because the city council actually went on record to say what melton did was wrong.perhaps at this hearing the police chief could say that what the mayor did he did on his own and was not part of the operations of JPD.perhaps the police chief could announce that the command vehicle was being reassigned and that no officer was to allow anyone to use it without her permission and that she could see no reason why the mayor would require its use. on the otherhand a prospective jury could easily believe that the council's silence is condonation,that melton is an integral part of jpd,so lets just stick the city with a good size verdict to make sure all seven wards get the message.legal strategy aside having a hearing is just the right thing to do.

Author

chimneyville

Date

2006-09-09T19:27:18-06:00

ID

123255

Comment

But, I ask The Clarion-Ledger once again: Where were YOU doing the campaign? -Ladd They were so busy sucking face with Melton until they were sharing the same air. The JFP made numerous first reports on this idiot, and the Ledge probably figured out that they needed to get on the bandwagon before they became the forgotten newspaper of the city. I have said on numerous occassions that Melton, Anderson, and Chandler all need to leave town in the same car. The police chief should have stopped this maddness long ago, but she was so busy hiding from the media, I think that she forgot that she is the chief of police. Her job is to ENFORCE the law, now allow Melton to rewrite the rules. Chandler has allowed the mayor to put the city in a terrible position with the EPA. If he is the leader that he would want us to believe he claims to be, he should have informed the mayor that he severely violated the codes set forth by the NFPA regarding burning houses. The EPA just levied some hefty fines in south MS this past week. Jackson could be looking at some of the same penalities. If I were a betting man, I would bet that finally Melton is going to face some consequences of his latest actions.

Author

lance

Date

2006-09-09T20:28:28-06:00

ID

123256

Comment

A woman called into one of the news feedback lines, and said something akin to, "I love Frank Melton. I think he should keep on tearing down those crack houses!!". She was calling in reference to the Ridgeway home. She obviously is one of many...according to the polls...that's not really paying attention. She sees pix on the news of a demolished house, in a poor black neighborhood, and automatically assumes it's a 'crack house'. She didn't pay attention to the whole report that said Evans Welch was charged with possession of marijuana and paraphernalia, and a traffic violation. Hardly a 'crack house'. (Clinton, Gore and, I think, Bush have admitted to smoking pot, and that just makes us titter.) I know that Tuesday's 10 A.M. Council meeting will be difficult for a lot of people to attend... it's a workday, etc. But, I think it's important for people to show up if they possibly can. White faces need to be there...not just predominately black ones. Then maybe folks who aren't really paying attention to "the bottom line" will sit up and take notice I don't believe this is a racial or socio-economic issue. I think it's a 'stand up for what's right' issue...an "and justice for all" issue...looking out for the "least of these"....standing up to the playground bully(s). A society is as strong as its weakest link. I'm hoping, and praying, that a lot of links...red, yellow, black and white...will show up at the Council meeting and show the Council, and people not really paying attention, that a lot of our city cares...and not just about our own neighborhood.

Author

JAR

Date

2006-09-09T21:22:38-06:00

ID

123257

Comment

I know that everyone has seen the WLBT report of "The man who was living in the Ridgeway Street house is Evans Welch. He's been arrested 18 times and has faced 38 separate charges in the past 13 years. In the past seven months Jackson police have been called out to the Ridgeway Street home on three separate dates." WLBT Web Site 9/9//06 We just got to remind ourselves and the council that Arrested does not mean charged and charged does not mean prosecuted. All that matters is convictions. WLBT just is playing word games. This is about Evan Welch and that his house was destroyed and he was arrested for charges that would have most other folks out within hours. Council please do something to help the City from any future "Title 1983" lawsuits, we do not need to make the attorneys rich because you want to wait for the other authorities to investigate. It is you sworn duty to investigate the mayor, and protect the Evan Welch's of the City. Please do your job.

Author

malt

Date

2006-09-10T07:51:04-06:00

ID

123258

Comment

I can't believe that this hasn't been posted yet. Ragnew's editoral today: This one is especially delicious because you could replace the situations and names and replace them with Ragnew and his antics and you'd could reach this conclusion: "That's just not the case with [Clarion-Ledger editor Ronnie Agnew], who should resign his [position] to spare the city, and himself, any more embarrassment from his [incompetence]."

Author

millhouse

Date

2006-09-10T14:50:15-06:00

ID

123259

Comment

"----because the city council actually went on record to say what melton did was wrong" quoting Chimneyville This is what MUST happen. I also agree with Chimneyville that whatever meeting of the minds occurs, it doesn't have to be called an investigation. Just statements of disapproval and suggested policies on equipment, etc. Agree with MALT also.....Quite a statement: "Arrested does not mean Charged; Charged does not mean Prosecuted. All that matters is Convictions!" Great and Simple.......

Author

ChrisCavanaugh

Date

2006-09-10T16:24:03-06:00

ID

123260

Comment

After reading this thread and several others of similar vein, it has become apparent to me that the vast majority of y'all's hatred of Melton is skewing things just a bit here. Y'all have to admit that most of y'all can't stand the guy and have hated his guts since day one (and before). I can totally appreciate it. I never liked him and was terrified for the city should he be elected. I voted for Harvey Johnson in the primary and then FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE voted Republican in the general election for Rick Whitlow. So am I, like the rest of the majority of bloggers here, just a bit gleeful over the circumstances in which the mayor finds himself now? Yes. But, I don't think the criticisms now being hurled at Councilman Allen are justified. I don't think some of y'all even listened to the podcast. At a time when the executive branch of government has CLEARLY become unhinged (although some of us have known for a long time that things were rotting from the inside out), it is NOT the time for the legislative branch to go nuts too. Councilman Allen clearly, yet CALMLY, stated in his press conference that he found the mayor's actions to be repugnant and said that he is sick and tired of the mayor's "sideshows" (which is what they ARE...the main show is the City continuing to move forward, in spite of the mayor). He expressed that he was deeply disturbed by what was going on and said that if the mayor broke any laws, he should be prosecuted. To me, he exemplified calm, statesman-like leadership. To me, his outrage was clear, just not hysterical. I think we may all be surprised at the leader Councilman Allen turns out to be. We all know he loves this City. I think he loves it a lot more than some of the other council members, who might be looking at this as an opportunity to advance their own political careers (no prizes for guessing who). He's taking a lot of political heat right now, and we're all wondering why. People here on this site are quick to call him a sissie or say that he's in some kind of Frank Bluntson love-fest with Melton, but I don't think that's it. Maybe true leadership isn't always played out in the media, on tv, or in the blogs. Maybe we never get to see our best leaders in action, working behind the scenes to bring ugly matters to a resolution that will hopefully not cost the city any more than it already has. Will a city council investigation be necessary? Maybe so. Will the Sheriff and the DA and the AG be able to handle an investigation on their own? Maybe so. The thing is, we don't know what is going on behind the scenes. I agree with Councilman Allen that a city council investigation is a very serious thing, and I applaud him for proceeding with caution in all of this. Real leadership isn't getting swept up in a tide of hysteria. Real leadership is communicating with all relative parties and making a calm, level-headed and well informed decision. Let's wait and see.

Author

charlotte

Date

2006-09-10T19:40:58-06:00

ID

123261

Comment

Charlotte, Ben is on the record as saying that he will never support a City Council investigation, regardless of the outcome of the DA/AG/USDOJ investigations. That is, I'm afraid, not a wait-and-see approach. Cheers, TH

Author

Tom Head

Date

2006-09-10T19:45:57-06:00

ID

123262

Comment

Charlotte, Thank you for your kind words. Tom, I never say never. These events are moving targets. I do not think (and history agrees, as our city has never, even during the FBI probes, had one of these investigations) that our interests, as a community, are best served by a political body taking the lead in these prosecutorial efforts. Our city is better served , as is the vaste expanse of our government, (IMHO) better served by appropriate authorities handling complicated matters such as this. I do not think that we are better served by 7 elected individuals, many with sole agendas, sorting through charges that people and families go to prison over. But if asked by the appropriate authorities, or if their efforts seem or are ineffective, I will and would support such an investigation. Just not now...not at this stage of the game. I realize my comments at the press conference may be in conflict concerning the word "never". If conflicts exist, let me clarify them now. This investigation is being conducted as we speak, in a very robust and straightforward manner. Trust me on this. As Charlotte said, "Let's wait and see."

Author

Ben Allen

Date

2006-09-10T20:38:19-06:00

ID

123263

Comment

That does make more sense.

Author

Ironghost

Date

2006-09-10T20:58:23-06:00

ID

123264

Comment

Ben, I'm glad to hear you clarify this. I had understood you to say that you would never support an investigation by the City Council, based in large part on this quote from your press conference: "Now, in my opinion--and my opinion only, and I think I can speak for Mr. Tillman and Mr. Bluntson--we did not feel then, nor do I feel now, that allegations and a situation that involved, in an executive session, of such a serious nature, should be investigated by your City Council. I still don't think that. I will never think that." Cheers, TH

Author

Tom Head

Date

2006-09-10T22:43:12-06:00

ID

123265

Comment

It's one thing for the council to say Fm has done wrong but yet doesn't want to step up and do anythign about it. What if i would have went to this house with some minors and tore this mans house up where would i be today?? Even if i thought it was a drug house and felt like i could do this. If i saw things like FM does im above the law who is gonna do anything?? What's so bad he is about right in his thinking. Because if anyone else would have done 1/2 of what he has done they would have already heard those jail doors slamming. What makes him above the law? He was warned about inpersanating an officer what did he do go to Washington and do it. What was done NOTHING.. Has he been back in a park since his warning YES, What was done? NOTHING. When is ENOUGH ENOUGH?? All FM is gonna do is show everyone he can do what he wants and noone WILL do anything about it. Look now he has EVERS trying to fix his mess only for EVERS to fix it and as soon as it is over he will right back to the same ole same ole...All over the newspaper and tv with another childish and STUPID thing he has done.. Once again where would we be if we did what he did? Any answer BEN??

Author

marshellamartin

Date

2006-09-11T00:33:58-06:00

ID

123266

Comment

After reading this thread and several others of similar vein, it has become apparent to me that the vast majority of y'all's hatred of Melton is skewing things just a bit here. Y'all have to admit that most of y'all can't stand the guy and have hated his guts since day one (and before). Actually, no, Charlotte. I actually quite like Mr. Melton *as a person*. We get along rather famously, considering that my paper has been the one media outlet willing to actually report the whole story from the beginning of his campaign. Likewise, I consider Ben a good friend, and I believe he would back me up on that. However, I don't agree with his latest actions, and agree with those who say that he is punting on an important issue. And as we see, he has contradicted himself on the issue; it is good to see him trying to provide some clarification. Criticizing and holding public servants accountable in no way denotes "hate." Here in America, this is what the citizens are supposed to do; it's why our country is so special, and you won't see JFP staffers and readers backing down from that civic duty anytime soon. Even when people throw dumb accusations our way. So skip trying to tell people that they "hate" others; besides, putting words in other people's mouths, not to mention ad hominem attacks such as yours, violate the User Agreement for the rather clear reason that such logical fallacies inhibit discussion and just start fights. I'll trust you will refrain from that in the issue, and state your opinion rather than telling others how they think and feel. I'm sure you're up to the task.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-11T11:01:16-06:00

ID

123267

Comment

Chimneyville et al., Thank you for your posts, and I hope Mr. Allen is considering them. To wit, how can the city limit its liability? BTW, would any insurance company let the city take out an insurance policy on Mr. Melton? I can't imagine what the premiums would be. Regarding Welch and his arrest record, an equally important question is: what were the arrests for? Has he ever been arrested for distribution of crack cocaine? Was he ever arrested for any kind of distribution? Has he ever engaged in violence? How many of the arrests are for felonies? Rest assured, we'll have answers for you on that score shortly.

Author

Brian Johnson

Date

2006-09-11T11:13:48-06:00

ID

123268

Comment

Ben Allen wrote: Our city is better served , as is the vaste expanse of our government, (IMHO) better served by appropriate authorities handling complicated matters such as this. I do not think that we are better served by 7 elected individuals, many with sole agendas, sorting through charges that people and families go to prison over. Ben, I appreciate the point that you're trying to make, but I feel compelled to point out that it seems the only real metric you're using is the fact that Council is "elected" -- and the fact that City Council is "elected" isn't enough of a defense here. The D.A., A.G. and all of our judges are elected, as well (with the exception of Federal judges, I suppose, if the investigation went that direction). I imagine that you could argue that Council isn't law enforcement, which isn't quite what you wrote, but what's perhaps most disturbing in *that* logic is that the reality on the ground is that misuse of the City's law enforcement resources is part of what's at play here. I'm sure many of us aren't confident that we can trust JPD to investigate this matter, and we should certainly expect City Council to offer oversight when it comes to JPD's involvement, city funds, etc. So, I guess what doesn't quite wash is that it's clear that Melton's alleged malfeasance is something he's doing in the line of duty as Mayor -- if he stood accused of something he did as on his own time -- having an illicit affair or drunk-driving or smuggling cigarettes into Canada or carrying guns in airports -- then having Council beg off and leave it to the "proper authorities" might be appropriate. But the question in play here is how is the Mayor using the power of his office, how he is using city resources and how is he directing city employees (and others) in the course of his duties. I'd be more comfortable if the speech you decided to give was "we're going to leave any criminal investigation to 'proper authorities,' but the Council is going to take a serious look at the use of city vehicles, personnel, budget dollars and other items that may be used inappropriately, as we have the responsibility to report and oversee the use of city resources in what may be lawlessness or improper use of authority." You could, of course, word it yourself. :-) But I do think that's Council's responsibility and it's *duty* and I'm hard pressed to see how you'll convince me otherwise.

Author

Todd Stauffer

Date

2006-09-11T11:16:05-06:00

ID

123269

Comment

What Chimneyville said above is vital, and is what I suspected to be true: arguably the city council having an investigative hearing on the ridgeway and upper level incidents could benefit the city on damage exposure for lawsuits that might arise from the incidents.a jury might not be as inclined to sock it to the city traesury if they saw the incidents solely as the actions of one crazed maniac----because the city council actually went on record to say what melton did was wrong. Ben, I just don't understand your liability argument. It seems that Council's reticence to investigate Mr. Melton could end up costing the city more in the long run? What? Sarah O'Reilly-Evans didn't tell y'all that? Now, THAT'S a surprise.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-11T11:39:09-06:00

ID

123270

Comment

On that note, has it crossed y'all's minds to get a second legal opinion -- from people outside the city not appointed by Mr. Melton? Again, O-Reilly-Evans and her staff were a big part of the reason the open-records thing got so out of control. Her contempt for the public's right to know seems second only to Mr. Melton's.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-11T11:41:27-06:00

ID

123271

Comment

Ms. Ladd-- I'd check with Mr. Allen before you violate your own User Agreement and put words into his mouth about what "good friends" y'all are. Perhaps if y'all were quite as chummy as you claim to be, he'd be letting you in on all that he is doing behind the scenes, away from the hysteria of the media. I don't think he is "punting" on this issue at all. What I was trying to get at, and what you chose to ignore, is that it makes absolutely no sense for Ben Allen to bring all this criticism on himself and to have any kind of blind loyalty to Frank Melton, and I don't think that is what is going on here. I think Mr. Allen truly believes that turning this into even MORE of a media circus (which is what a City Council investigation would turn into) is detrimental to the City. He NEVER said that this should all be swept under the rug and ignored by the City Council. He said he was disturbed by the Mayor's actions and sick of having to clean up his messes. This whole situation hasn't earned Mr. Allen any points with the public; in fact, he's quickly spending a bunch of his political capital on Frank Melton. The question is, why? I can only hope that the reason he's doing this, which is what I tried to say (type) earlier, is because he's working quietly as hard as he can to resolve this--RESOLVE it, not IGNORE it--outside of the scrutiny of the media. I would think that the majority of folks would agree with me that the more negative coverage this City gets, the worse it is for the City, and I am hoping that's what Ben Allen is thinking too.

Author

charlotte

Date

2006-09-11T12:44:50-06:00

ID

123272

Comment

Charlotte, with due respect, you don't know what I know and what I don't about anything going on right now. For one, I know full well Ben's reasoning for being the swing vote against a Council investigation, and I respectfully disagree with him on it, as do many people. In my world, you can disagree with someone, especially a public servant, and still respect and be friends with them. Or, as Ben puts it, you can follow the lead of Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill, rather than the hate-based politics of the present where if you dare disagree with someone publicly, that means you must hate them as a person. That is absurd. Also, you are skipping wholly over the point that Ben's actions here (or lack of action) could actually put the city at risk of *more* damages. And there is nothing convincing about the idea that a Council investigation would make this "more of a media circus." The truth is, Mr. Melton's actions, and Council's inaction, have gotten too little media coverage over the months. Now, my assumption now is that you are going to stop trolling on my site. You are now even trying to express words and thoughts on Mr. Allen's behalf, and that's just as offensive as you declaring that residents who dare to challenge our elected mayor "hate" him. This is an incredibly stupid argument to make, and offensive to other posters. Shoo, if that is your strategy. No. one. cares.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-11T12:56:09-06:00

ID

123273

Comment

Oh, and by the way, it makes no sense to resolve this "outside of the scrunity of the media," and thus the public. My sense is that Ben knows that government should not operate in secret; nor should it be seen as operating in secret. I actually believe that he thinks this is the best way to help the city—but I disagree with him. And I still look forward to our next lunch where we can argue about it in the corner of some fine local restaurant. ;-)

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-11T12:58:24-06:00

ID

123274

Comment

this goes back to liability:we should encourage chief anderson to appear before the city council in which she can have placed into the record the following:that it is not ,nor has it been, the policy ,custom or practice of the jackson police department to authorize the use of the command vehicle for the purpose of visiting the upper level lounge in order for the mayor to inspect the premises or for transporting the mayor and his associates to a residence to conduct a demolition of a structure.rather the use of the command vehicle was ordered by the mayor so that he could be transported to various locations for the comfort and safety of the mayor and his guests

Author

chimneyville

Date

2006-09-11T13:34:27-06:00

ID

123275

Comment

...and that the two police officers assigned to the mayor are there strictly to provide security to the mayor and are not authorized to conduct any activities outside of their security functions unless so ordered by me or their immediate supervisor or in connection with their duties as sworn officers.

Author

chimneyville

Date

2006-09-11T13:37:51-06:00

ID

123276

Comment

Exactly. This is what we were trying to get Ben to address Friday—exactly what *is* the best way to protect the city (and taxpayers) from liability, or at least huge damages? It didn't make sense to me that a hands-off approach would help shield the Council; just the opposite, in fact. They should be on the record doing everything they can in order to protect the taxpayers from the worst hit brought on by Frank Melton. I fear that Ben et al are going to be dragged into court at some point and be forced to answer the question: Why DIDN'T Council try to do more? Take a stand against Melton? Then, it'll be the citizens left holding the bag. Seriously, Ben, y'all ought to get a second legal opinion, and change course. Fast.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-11T13:42:24-06:00

ID

123277

Comment

and that the command vehicle has been reassigned for its intended purpose...and that the mayor should be supplied a four door sedan such as crown victoria,to be paid for outside of the budget of the jackson police department.moreover all requests or orders to jpd from the mayor's office shall be directed to her first.

Author

chimneyville

Date

2006-09-11T13:42:35-06:00

ID

123278

Comment

Also, it seems that his concern that anything Council said could be used against them could be the exact opposite problem. That is, what they don't say is what is actually going to bite them/us in the butt in civil lawsuits. Take a stand, Ben. Forget liability; it's the *right* thing to do.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-11T13:43:53-06:00

ID

123279

Comment

and that the command vehicle has been reassigned for its intended purpose...and that the mayor should be supplied a four door sedan such as crown victoria,to be paid for outside of the budget of the jackson police department.moreover all requests or orders to jpd from the mayor's office shall be directed to her first. Amen, amen and amen. Furthermore, if the police chief doesn't stop acting like a damn police chief, she needs to be fired. And the fire chief is past the point of needing another chance. I would argue the same goes for the city attorney. We need change, and we need it badly.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-11T13:45:37-06:00

ID

123280

Comment

perhaps in this way the chief can salvage her legacy as a leader --putting the best interests and reputations of the men and women under her command ahead of this abusive nutball who got her the job. there is no statute that says the chief must follow the orders of the mayor. rather all melton can possibly do is terminate her, and even then she may be protected from termination by her contract of employment

Author

chimneyville

Date

2006-09-11T13:47:57-06:00

ID

123281

Comment

and after the chief makes her statement to the council the council could in turn offer a resolution in supprot of the chief's position....so, how hard is that?

Author

chimneyville

Date

2006-09-11T13:50:20-06:00

ID

123282

Comment

Well, it doesn't seem like she'd go down with the Titanic, either. I guess now is the time to see what she's made up. Can she break the chains, and do the right now? Or, will her legacy be intertwined with Mr. Melton's in the history books? Agreed: How hard is that?

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-11T13:57:59-06:00

ID

123283

Comment

I didn't see anything wrong with Charlotte's last post. Just a disagreement with Ms Ladd but nothing really out of line.

Author

Kingfish

Date

2006-09-11T14:16:28-06:00

ID

123284

Comment

Ladd, I couldn't agree more with your logic that the Council's inaction could ultimately cause the city higher legal liability. Just makes sense. If I were on a jury involving a school teacher that was found guilty for abusing students, and the school board had refused to investigate, because they were worried about their own liability?...I'd be thinking punitive, punitive punitive! Refusing to investigate can keep an abusive teacher (or Mayor) in the school (or in office) that much longer, giving that law breaker more opportunities to abuse.

Author

JAR

Date

2006-09-11T14:34:25-06:00

ID

123285

Comment

Most of her last post was fine, but the ad hominem parts are out of line: I'd check with Mr. Allen before you violate your own User Agreement and put words into his mouth about what "good friends" y'all are. Being a jerk is not going to add anything to the discussion. Anonymous posters attacking someone's friendships, or trying to make them sound like liars about it, is way out of line. If Charlotte leaves out the ad hominem parts going forward, she is welcome to keep posting. Otherwise, she can leave. Her choice, as always.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2006-09-11T15:01:06-06:00

ID

123286

Comment

Charlotte, enough of this nievete for Ban Allen. Ben Allen knows exactly what he is doing, why he is doing it and with whom he is doing it. Ben Allen is the world's greatest game player and he is trying to keep this as a straddle-the-fence so as to keep both black and white folks satisfied. Ben knows that there are ethics and oversight governing that council and it is under that umbrella that metlon's behaviors could have been reigned in. I guess I don't have much faith in Ben Allen who claims to be all over Jackson trying to get businesses to locate/stay in Jackson yet he did not see fit to put his own businesses (Quiznos) in Jackson, proper. How can you ask someone else to do for Jackson what you are not willing to do? I have watched Mr. Allen for years and when others were trying to speak out about the harm done to the property and the man on Ridgeway, Ben quickly stated that he was more interested in what happened at the Saints/Colts games with many of his friend not being able to get in. Ben Allen, how soon you forget. Did it ever cross your mind that this crowd was not a novel situation for this City. What happened was the absence of the planner, Harvey Johnson and Moore who was a traffic genius. Jackson State University has brought in over 60 thousand fans many times over the past 8 years and it didn't take fans half of the game time to get in. I'm tired of this type of hypocrisy. Again, let's call the wolf ugly and acknowledge the elephant under the green on the pool table.

Author

justjess

Date

2006-09-11T15:08:20-06:00

ID

123287

Comment

Charlotte, I have genuine respect for Mr. Allen, but talk of turning this into a media circus is silly. Mr. Allen tried to play this game during his press conference on Friday when he said that the media ignores all the good things happening in the city in order to chase sensationalistic headlines. The JFP is and has been a champion for all the wonderful things that are happening in Jackson. Next week, we will print a cover story on development downtown that should greatly please Mr. Allen. But the reason why the media is focusing on these issues is that they are of the highest importance. Violations of civil rights and potentially staggering liability for the city are not media sensationalism. Furthermore, whether Mr. Allen wants City Council to investigate these matters or not, the council is deeply divided. Thus, the media will cover that conflict, as it should. That is not a "media circus." That is news. Moreover, it is democracy. I think Mr. Allen would agree.

Author

Brian C Johnson

Date

2006-09-11T20:44:17-06:00

ID

123288

Comment

"B" ....writes "Next week, we will print a cover story on development downtown".... thanks that will be a good break.....for me....all this scandal has us expats in a "snake knot".....seems the whole state is talking about FM now.....though it's getting more exaggerated with everyone I talk to. This afternoon a friend here whose parents live in New Albany told him that Frank leveled a whole house with a sledge hammer.....I didn't say anything I just blew air on the on the fire (thought that might help).....An Architect here whose parents live in Madison said essentially the same thing....."they attacked a house with a disabled drug addict inside".......!!!!! She didn't identify the "They"...

Author

ATLExile

Date

2006-09-11T21:22:05-06:00

ID

123289

Comment

ATL, I have seen folks from Wisconsin and Michigan send me messages on my civil liberties site, complete with news links, asking if I heard about that crazy mayor in Mississippi. I have to explain to them that not only have I heard of him, but I voted for the guy. Frank Melton needs to resign and let someone more grounded and stable take his place. That would solve pretty much all of the problems. I'm still not sure how much to blame Shirlene Anderson, but you know that if Melton resigns, it'll be academic--she'll be out of a job either way. And even if she's innocent, maybe that's as it should be--she'll be able to work somewhere where there isn't the Melton baggage, and JPD will get a clean slate. As for Ben Allen, I'm not going to personally attack him. I neither agree with nor understand his decision. I believe that his decision supports an institutionally racist "criminal justice" apparatus, and I believe that he is too insulated from Melton's victims to do what he needs to do--but in these respects he's no worse than pretty much any other white in northeast Jackson. He's still not N-JAM material. Not by my reckoning. His willingness to back away from the "never" comment is good enough for me, for now. I have already been too hasty in judging Jim Hood, and I really need to give Ben the benefit of the doubt. Cheers, TH

Author

Tom Head

Date

2006-09-11T23:00:16-06:00