Jackson Free Press

Here's a double whammy for y'all. Mayor Frank Melton is slated to appear on Ben Allen's WJNT radio show Friday morning. Then, at noon, the JFP will discuss is comments on our radio show on WLEZ (103.7 FM). Tune in!

Update: Visit the JFP on WLEZ page for today's podcast.

Update #2: Click here for the WJNT podcast (MP3, 59MB) of Ben Allen with Frank Melton.

Previous Commentsshow

Note to self: write note to self to listen. This will be interesting, to say the least.

golden eagle

May 10 2007

This will be interesting.

LatashaWillis

May 10 2007

I'm expecting a few fireworks between B & F, and Memorial Day is more than two weeks away!

golden eagle

May 10 2007

Well, I'm sure Mr. Melton will be perfectly "candid" with the council. That's his favorite word in interviews.

DonnaLadd

May 10 2007

I doubt this will be nothing more then a PR talk about the good things coming to the City. You know Allen isn't going to ask anything controversial. In fact, I look for a reaffirmation of their love for the City and one another. I bet they don't even take any calls until the very end or only by Meltonites carefully screened before hand. Melton isn't going to pass up mic time to spill his bile; and Allen isn't going to ask anything hard. I challenge anyone on the blogs to call in, and ask him a question about topics that you are unhappy with. Let's see how many can get though. It's going to be a cupcake show. Expect at least one call from Blunston and another from Gloria's Kitchen. ;-) I really would like to hear Kim Wade call in and ask a question or two. Larry calls into his show some. Podcast it, I'm going to sleep in!

pikersam

May 10 2007

I bet Kim will have his two cents worth about it on his show tomorrow afternoon. On the subject of Frank and talk radio, I did read in the Jackson Advocate that Charles Tisdale may be back on WMPR in a couple of weeks. He recently had a part of his foot amputated, which is why the show hadn't be on lately.

golden eagle

May 10 2007

Theme song for the show: Not Ready to Make Nice, the Dixie Chicks. :)

Lady Havoc

May 10 2007

I prefer "Send In the Clowns" from Frank Sinatra.

golden eagle

May 10 2007

Please email me suggested questions. We will "talk" first 25 minutes and take questions/comments for the last 30 minutes [we do NOT screen/cull callers unless they are obviously drunk...that DOES happen from time to time...or if they wish to discuss a topic entirely "off-topic"]. We will attempt to answer as many questions as possible. Send your questions to me at: [email]ben@msyearbooks.com[/email]

Ben Allen

May 10 2007

By the way, Ben, I didn't mean to refer to you personally as a clown when making the "Send In the Clowns" reference.

golden eagle

May 10 2007

[we do NOT screen/cull callers unless they are obviously drunk...that DOES happen from time to time... I'm going to let a juicy opportunity for a remark just pass on by here. ;-) Personally, I'd like to know why he's so enamored with Gene Phillips. And why the members of the lawn crew aren't drug-tested, as he and Charles Melvin told me that they all were.

DonnaLadd

May 10 2007

Oh, and Ben: Plug the Chick Ball if you get a chance. It's for a good cause. And there's music for everyone.

DonnaLadd

May 10 2007

I hope I'm proven wrong; but, I don't think I will be far off. I didn't mean to imply they pick and choose callers per say. But, I wouldn't be surprised if Redd, Parker-Weaver, and Ward are lining up a group to begin calling in at 8 to jam the lines with favorable callers. I've been privy to two groups during campaigns that called into the show in support of who was on that show. It's not hard to do. If it was, you wouldn't keep getting some of the same lame callers like "Mike" on Kim Wade's show for instance everyday. Great thing about blogs... No waiting your turn to express your opinion, and its 24/7/365!

pikersam

May 10 2007

Is Gene Phillips the brainchild behind this project near the convention center?

golden eagle

May 10 2007

Yes golden! Yet, all Small's company does is "design" and "manage" these types of projects. It is being funded by Gene Phillips the TX billionaire that Melton brags about. As desperate as Melton's sounded since he's been mayor to bring this guy in, you'd think he owes him a debt or something. By having the company in Dallas as the shell company for the project it took some of the initial heat off that was generated by the exposure of Gene Phillips questionable background when Melton first mentioned him. My question is when and where did the request for proposals go out? I seem to remember that the Capital Green project had numerous meetings, sessions with potential bidders, and open media access to the bid results. Otherwise it was a big deal! Yet, this project had very little fanfare, no public meetings or session with potential bidders. And, has anyone seen the advertisement for the request for proposals? Was it published correctly and for the right amount of time? Then one day in the paper, there it is, this big project that is coming to Jackson with Danks as counsel. I find it odd that a smaller project like Capital Green gets so much pre-bid fanfare, and has several bidders; while this bigger more lucrative project comes almost out of nowhere signed, sealed, and delivered!

pikersam

May 10 2007

BTW: A 200-300 room hotel is small for a convention center hotel. It should be a minimum of 500 rooms and at least more meeting space than either the Hilton or the Marriott if they want to compete for anything more then a few heads in beds with the rest. The Hilton and the Marriott are 300 room hotels. If you are going to add to the City then do it right and do it bigger and better then what we got! It's like that building Parkway is doing next to One Jackson Place. A building smaller than the ones we have does nothing to add to the skyline of the City. You will not be able to see this building from I-55, High St, Pearl St., the JSU prky, or I-20. So, what is the point? Skylines mean something!

pikersam

May 10 2007

[we do NOT screen/cull callers unless they are obviously drunk...that DOES happen from time to time... Anyone who calls in drunk at 8 AM needs to be referred to AA. Just a thought...

LatashaWillis

May 10 2007

The Entergy project [Old Capitol Green] is completely and entirely different from the proposal being reviewed by the JRA. Entergy and the state owned the property in the OCG, and state law had to be changed to develop it. The JRA owns less that 1/2 the property involved in this new venture. The rest is owned by private land owners. The proposers have $14 million invested to date in these private purchases which will "close" if the JRA and the investors come to a "deal". Three major investors are partnering this venture and part of the agreement will be contingent on all the pieces falling together at the same time. If they do, constuction will begin IMMEDIATELY [as in the day after the contract is approved], provided that this all happens in the next couple of weeks. Timing is of the utmost IMPORTANCE, as this project must take advantage of GO-ZONE legislation. This was without a doubt...no-one else even close....[IMHO] the best offer received. Several other investors were interested as well, but backed off when they saw the scope of this proposal. For the eternal cynics, rest assured that people around town "other that those in the paper" are all over this proposal reviewing these conditions. They are doing these reviews on their own "nickle", out of love and hope for the future of your Capital City. It may not happen....I give it a 75% right now. We will see. I hope and pray that it does, because we will never have a proposal of this size, encompassing this much property, in one project. Not at that location. As far as Mr. Phillip's as a developer. Yes he had some issues in his past that may cause "pause" for some. People we know and respect around town that have done "deals" with him all over the world [yes world] have given him the thumbs up as a very successful developer. Not a major developer in the country has not had lawsuits and 'issues" in his past. I will not be able to post further on this for the next few days due to time constraints. Keep you fingers crossed.

Ben Allen

May 10 2007

Do understand, I am not opposed to this development, and know that Jackson needs some "wins" in the renewal department. However, Mayor Melton is famous for complaining that "we" were bringing in too many out of state businesses who are only going to take the money elsewhere. Also, I don't think he was initially pleased with the selection of Full Spectrum as the Capital Green developer. (BTW: what is up with that? seems scary quiet?). So, all of a sudden we are supposed to smile and be happy that he is bringing in a group that is able to do the same thing any other out of state owned business can do if given the chance. Spend the profits elsewhere! Of course, maybe this is all part of his learning process, and now he sees that it is "good" to bring in new money to the City. Duh! Yet, when it ends up just being a group of your cronies (how much will SORE make if they do any bonds?), including ace attorney Dale Danks, it makes for a bitter win. Is this project worth losing the good people you had over in Planning and Development? The dismantling of the City - department by department? The end does not justify the means is what I've been taught.

pikersam

May 10 2007

Showtime!

golden eagle

May 11 2007

Yep, he hasn't changed! How many times do we have to hear the same stories about the boys he talks to who have dropped out of school and are smoking marijuana. I've now heard the same refrain about 5 times now in two years.

pikersam

May 11 2007

Yep, he hasn't changed! How many times do we have to hear the same stories about the boys he talks to who have dropped out of school and are smoking marijuana. I've now heard the same refrain about 5 times now in two years. Where the drugs son? It ain't rocket science!

pikersam

May 11 2007

He said the lawn crew and temp workers are being drug-tested. He also just said all city employees need to be drug-tested. Well, fine and dandy, but why haven't that happened to all employees?

golden eagle

May 11 2007

Golly gosh, everyone was so nice and cordial on the show. Gee, wasn't that swell? :-P I don't think the cronyism question was fully answered. Just to say that it isn't true and mention a lawn crew doing a good job of cutting grass at a cemetery isn't enough for me. (Not saying that the grass shouldn't be cut.) What about former MBN employees who are heading departments that they don't know enough about? Did anyone hear Melton say that Donna has a big mouth? I can hear Donna now: "It takes one to know one." LOL

LatashaWillis

May 11 2007

Ol' Pike sees all. Cupcake show with no regular callers. People who call in to ask questions like what the mayor can do about discipline in the school rooms need to go back to whatever game show they are watching at the time. Even when Ben asked him questions about appointments, it was turned into a well we disagree, but we love the City and respect one another without even addressing the issue. Kumbaya everyone! Golden E. That was a lie about the lawn crew, and I challenge him to produce the drug test results! He can't do it! Actually, if you go to get a job with the City you are drug tested, he wasn't implying they don't test already. However, his first personnel person quit when Melton demanded she hire his "boyz" without drug tests. When she balked, she resigned (wink, wink) and thus the start of the Temp Agency scam. Think about this, Why won't Hickingbottom get a real good job with the City? He probably can't pass a drug test, so it is easier to bilk us of our tax dollars through the Temp's. Also, note he said he rounded up all the children in his house a few months ago, and took them to the MEA (which he couldn't name) and had them drug tested. What were the ages of the children? Didn't think you could have minors at your home for several more months? $1000 says that he can't produce the test results with enough non-redacted information that shows Age, Sex, and Address. Would also like to see the receipt payed out of his pocket. I guess when he can't prove you are making stuff up about him, he resorts to name calling: Donna - You got a Big Mouth! So, says Melton! He loves to diss the women! BTW: The guy that didn't vote for IMS to run the JPS Bond is toast. Ben, McLemore and Barrett can't vote on this upcoming nomination to the School Board. I hope he sues once he is voted out.

pikersam

May 11 2007

I also got tickled when Melton said that there is a newspaper with two reporters whose jobs are to find something negative about Jackson. Gee, I wonder who they could be. Any guesses? :-) I see that he didn't leave the C-L out either, and their love-hate relationship is a whole different subject altogether.

LatashaWillis

May 11 2007

Oh yeah, it's just a lie that he's hired any convicted felons LW. Armstrong, Williams, Stafney... hello! BTW: After listening to Kaze on Kim Wade yesterday, he has fully drank the Melton Kool-aid, and pretty much proven he can't separate right from wrong. He went on and on about how Faye wasn't any good, and that the Sheriff had to go. But when Kim pressed him to provide facts he had to stumble and back off. Saying it would be good to see some comparisons between Faye and Peters records. But, he's firmly buying the idea that this would be a better place with those two gone. A nun once taught me that the end does not justify the means. I sure which other people would remember that.

pikersam

May 11 2007

Also, the Mayor thinks it's funny that Gene Phillips brought him an autographed sledgehammer. (I think Ben did too, since he brought it up first) :-( Morals are going out the window in this town. The cars in the yard crap was a lie too. Drive by Palm Bridges and look at he guy with 5 cars and machinery in his yard. Melton drives by that everyday. maybe he misses it when he goes to light his cigarette? Absolutely the worst house on Old Canton right now and he won't do crap! Must be a Melton supporter.

pikersam

May 11 2007

I also got tickled when Melton said that there is a newspaper with two reporters whose jobs are to find something negative about Jackson. Gee, I wonder who they could be. Any guesses? :-) In Melton's mind, media who are unafraid to report the truth about his administration is being negative about Jackson.

Jeff Lucas

May 11 2007

Oh, yeah. The autographed sledgehammer. I wonder if he'll be breaking it in any time soon. Allen did mention the God-like admiration that people have of Melton. Yes, he's a real charmer, and if you didn't know all the facts, you could be easily influenced by the things he says. It's almost hypnotic. I had to shake myself a couple of times. LOL

LatashaWillis

May 11 2007

It makes me want to take a shower! Like after watching the movie "Kids" Ewww....

pikersam

May 11 2007

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the Clarion Ledger (Joyner and Baylada) because he just singled Ladd out directly.

pikersam

May 11 2007

Hey, all. Yes, I am tickled pink that Melton said I have a "big mouth." Coming from him, that is truly special. ;-) What's really interesting about his choice of "insults" is that it isn't really one. Kids and troublemakers tend to call other kids "big mouths" when they tell on them. Ahem. And speaking as a woman from Mississippi where our voices are seldom heard, or at least listened to, hearing a mayor with Mr. Melton's track record refer to me as a "big mouth" on the air is a sign that I'm doing my job exactly as I'm supposed to. Richard Barrett has called me an "integrationist editor" and Melton has called me a "big mouth." Life is good. ;-)

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Pike, I think he was talking about the Ledger reporters on that one, too, and I can't disagree with him completely. They do look for the negative—except, until recently, when it came to him, of course. When they had to start reporting negative stuff about him, because he was doing so much negative sh!t, then he turned on them. That was about the time he decided to start talking to me after refusing to for 14 months. (Note his comments about people shouldn't shut out those they disagree with. Yeah, right.) More importantly, on the drug-testing point. Did y'all hear him say that he had gathered up all the kids in his house "a few months" back and taken them in for drug testing? If he had kids living in his house a few months back, he was violating the terms of his probation. Not that anybody official gives a damn about the kids living in his house, but still. So either he was violating probation, or he's lying now. Or both. I wonder if he would make the results of those drug tests public to prove it.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Oh, and Allen sure won't be taking Adam's job anytime soon. He threw some major softballs. And all the crap letting Melton getting away with painting his critics who present valid criticism as "haters" is just irresponsible. Of course, Ben has been known to try that little trick himself. Anyone who pulls that is assuming that the voters are stupid. Now, I must work this a.m. We have a *ton* to say on the radio show today. Tune on in.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Pickersam...you obviously picked and chose the points you wanted to hear....If you had listened carefully then yes, you would have heard me say that some change was needed and I still think it is. I think Smith and Lewis should be given the opportunity to run or win or serve of their own merit. Once folks have been in office for a while I will always feel like its time for some fresh air...I then also said that I didnt have enough numbers to accurtely rate Faye's tenure. And I said, to paraphrase "Lets get the numbers in here and take a look...If it stands that the numbers are good then maybe she should stay in. I could only base my thoughts on the cases that the media puts out...In those cases the numbers dont look good. So lets see the numbers..that's all. You must remember, Kim is friends with Faye so you cant possibly just be taking his argument at face value either huh? and a caller pointed that out..and he agreed...that is if you were listening. ..and just to summarize, 'cause I had to straighten a few folks in the past...Im my own guy pikersam. Ive drank no one's "kool-aid" . I make my own decisions and have fromulated my own opinions. They may not be in lockstep with yours but they are mine just the same. I dont stumble or waiver. I stand my ground. Listen a little more carefully today or anyday Im on. Im just a little more real about this situation than some folks. The mayor's gonna be here, so I choose to speak and act in spite of that. You can ask me questions and challenge my statements all day no problem. But because im not vehemently against the mayor as you are..don't say Ive drank the kool-aid

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

Oh, and one more thing. Answering the very important question about Gene Phillips with the cute little story about Phillips presenting him an autographed "sludgehammer" the other night says a lot about Melton. And Phillips, if he really did such a thing. Do we really want investors in this city who would make light of such a horrible action? Who are these Texans?

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Comments backed up by hard facts should be taken at face value, Kaze. And if you're going to trash the D.A., you ought to have facts at your disposal. If not, you run the risk of sounding like you're part of Melton's trash brigade. And I doubt you want people to think that about you.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Was Baydala the one that Melton said he would "cream" personally?

LatashaWillis

May 11 2007

Now Pike, I find it hard to believe that Bob Hickingbottom does drugs, and you shouldn't write such things without evidence, though Melton does surround himself with people who have drug problems (Christopher Walker and Vidal Sullivan come to mind). I imagine that Hickingbottom is a temp because a) that bypasses any question of qualifications, e.g. does Hickingbottom have the training to monitor job sites, or whatever it is he does, and b) as a temp, he can run off and throw a political event for Melton or one of his allies without having to get time off work. Oh wait. Being a regular employee doesn't stop Stephanie Parker-Weaver, Shirlene Anderson, Marcus Ward, Charles Melvin or Sarah O'Reilly-Evans from politicking on the city's dime. Maybe the answer is to make them all temps?

Brian C Johnson

May 11 2007

Yes, L.W., Baydala was the one. Right after she wrote about his trip to the Bahamas. (After we talked about in on the JFP site.) After that is when the Ledger started being more critical of him—years too late, but hey. Then he did the interviews with me, I suspect, hoping that he would charm me (especially with all his trash talk about the Ledger) in our series of interviews. And he was charming, no doubt, and I liked him personally. But I don't let charm offensives get in the way of what the public needs to know. Insiders also tell us Ledger editors were royally p!ssed that he gave us that access, including the ride-alongs on the MCC, which no one else had done (or asked for, he told us). What was remarkable to me then is that it took personal attacks on their reporters, and jealousy over access, in order to get the Ledger editors to start doing harder reporting about Melton.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

I couldn't listen to the entire thing since I was busy working, so I didn't hear him calling Donna's name. Since she, Todd and Brian will talk about it on their show today, I'm sure they'll make some comment on it. Anybody who opposes Frank on anything--even if you root against his favorite football team--is negative against Jackson.

golden eagle

May 11 2007

Ain't like Hichingbottom doesn't spread lies. Good for the goose... Ok, I'm sorry... Kaze, your exact quote (and you are welcome to pod the show) was: "It is time for a change in the DA and Sheriff's office." That is what you said to start it all. Last week on Friday, you began by saying that JRA, Performa and "a couple of other people" are the cause of the problems on Farish St. and Downtown. (Pod cast it) All based on "some committee" you serve on to help Farish St. What "committee" Who is on it? Who formed it? I agree Performa is a crappy company based on what is out there. But, who are the "other couple of people" you repeatedly wanted to point out as you disparaged JRA and the progress on Farish St. The way you were presenting what you learned from that "committee" sounded very Melton. I wrote that in a post I didn't post the day you said all that. I decided to wait until more was written about JRA; and my suspicions were proven true in the article in the JFP this week.

pikersam

May 11 2007

Insiders also tell us Ledger editors were royally p!ssed that he gave us that access, including the ride-alongs on the MCC, which no one else had done (or asked for, he told us). The Bible says "you have not because you ask not". No need at them getting angry, especially over something that they probably wouldn't have asked for to begin with.

LatashaWillis

May 11 2007

Actually Donna, I could care less if folks like me or not...Plenty of folks either despise me or just generally don't care much for me. then there are those that are behind me. Can't live life worrying about that. IF you don't agree with me cool..If you DO agree with me cool. No difference. But if you were listening I didnt "trash" the D.A. I asked to see some numbers so I could be better informed. Even then, I may call for a change. As I said before, because Im not jumping up and down calling for the mayor's ouster, it lends to the impression that "Ive drank the kool-aid" but that is to the contrary. We can spend a a day, hell a week, talkig about what the mayor has done wrong. *I* don't even agree with everything that fella does. But if we do that then actually we won't have time for much else. And I gots thangs ta do!

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

I'm not really talking about "like," Kaze. I know you want respect. And I didn't listen, I admit. I'm riffing on other comments, so take that for what it's worth. ;-) However, there is a really awful habit in this community—started by Melton for his purposes, I believe—of trashing Peterson without backup facts, and certainly without context of the last DA. I hate to see smart people pick up that thread, and play into that game, especially against a self-made black woman from Jackson, who is actually quite impressive once you get beyond the hype.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Yes, and what committee to help Farish Street? That should all be open record and open to the public. Please explain. Who is on it? Who organized it? What is it doing? When does it meet? (Should be open meetings if the city is involved.) Details, please.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Well actually Pike the committe consists of myself and some business owners in the area who have a vested interest in seeing that area develop. I was new to the process so my learning about the city's agreement with Performa was new and my learning about JRA was new and for my vantage point those guys have ben given 10-12 years and have not produced. they have even begun or are trying to begin similar projects in two other sities. Birmingham is one and are trying to convince those cities to work with them even though they have no work to show. Birmingham officials have even called city officials asking about Performa's performance. even Leland Speed in speaking with us last week said Performa has called him looking for a glowing recommendation even though they don't deserve one. Truth be told from our conversation with him the Capital Green and Two-Lakes projects have taken precedent over Farish st. A move that I personally don't think we need to let slide. Farish has been at the head of the line for a decade and PErforma has held it hostage. We either have to live with the decision made 10 years ago or disband JRA so that Performa can be sent on their way and Jackson can find other investors

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

Actually Donna, I could care less if folks like me or not...Plenty of folks either despise me or just generally don't care much for me. then there are those that are behind me could not, could not, could not care less. pay attention. looks like we will be filing some FOI requests soon.

Kingfish

May 11 2007

I wonder if Kaze knows that the MDA had promised $5 million to the Farish St development under Johnson. Then Leland Speed became Director, and Capital Green came about; thus only $2 million was appropriated to Farish St. development. Mind you, our State is taking in record tax revenues now! I guess that kind of stuff doesn't raise eyebrows? Now who is over in Planning now with Hiedel? Hmmm?

pikersam

May 11 2007

REspect is what Ive earned Donna. Whether folks like me or not...they can't help but respect me and thats all I can ask. If they don't because we don't see eye to eye on the mayor issue then...I don't know what to tell ya. ..And pikersam did ya read my last post? WOW! I SAID that I called for a change in the D.A.'s and sherrif's office. thats no new development glad you heard that. now read what I JUST wrote after that. Lemme see numbers if the numbers are sparkling, I may have to digress. However, even if they are I may STILL call for some changes just 'cause I feel everything needs a change at times.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

Not following ya 'Fish...FOI requests? clear that up for me.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

was meant for Donna and her remarks about Farish street group,etc.

Kingfish

May 11 2007

I must say I find it intriguing that you (Kamikaze) would start trusting the mainstream media for your info and data regarding the DA... I hope that's not all you've based your opinion on -- the lamestream's coverage of high profile cases only....

kaust

May 11 2007

Here Kaze let me help you out... Here's the link to the Birmingham Performa story. Not defending Performa. But, I don't like "unnamed" people called out as the problems on Farish St. with some disclosure. Especiially since you were linking it all to JRA at the same time. Please podcast it and let the readers decide what you were saying. We've had to listen to Melton, Hickinbottom, SPWeaver, and the rest do the same thing about people which gets old and is deceitful!

pikersam

May 11 2007

Don't switch the subject, Kaze. We weren't talking about respect because of disagreement about the mayor; we were discussing disrespect if you drink the Koolaid on the DA—a self-made black woman from Jackson—without facts to back it up. Melton has been a downright misogynist toward that woman with the way he put Walker up to make unsubstantiated sexual allegations about her. I hope you are a bit more thorough in your research on this one, and don't just follow Melton down a dark path. Yes, and please give us all the details about the Farish Street committee.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

What is going on with Two-Lakes has nothing to do with Farish St. Geez! Who told you that? Capital Green? I pointed out what I see as a problem. Go ask Performa what they are doing? Where is the money the State gave them? don't just go on a tear and blame several groups and "a couple of people" when the problem is Performa.

pikersam

May 11 2007

Actually Knol coming form a Journalism background IT's kinda odd but my time as a hiphop artist has made me not trust media period. It's a double-edged sword for me. Print and T.V. to me do either one of two things accentuate the negative often times beating it into bloody submission or they get things flat out wrong. So I take everything I read or see with a grain of salt. But you still have to report, you still have to write your columns, you still have to go out with that camera because the world needs that. ITs necessary. but...That's why I always preferred features and opinion columns in my reporter days. No matter how many hard facts you may have, you eventually are probably gonna miss something. And once the public has seen it or read it..it's a wrap. And its hard for folks to come back from that. As a rapper that makes me kinda leery.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

Kaze, even opinion columns and features must be based on verifiable facts. (Unfortunately, not enough people understand that you can't libel people and call it "opinion" and get away with it.) And your point seems to bolster Knol's. It sounds like you're not asking for information beyond the "lamestream" to back up your statements here.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

BTW: The mayor could sever ties with Performa if he wished. He probably could do it without JRA by going through the Council. Better to get together with JRA to spell out your concerns (without stupid threats) and try to show them that we have a problem that results a new developer. But, you risk getting sued depending on the contract signed. But, if that new person is Gene Phillips or any of Melton's other cronies then we fell for another of Melton's dirty handed tricks to get money into "his" peoples hands.

pikersam

May 11 2007

Its cool ya think Peterson is a self-made woman. That has zip to do with me actually. I just want to see the numbers that's all. If they're good hoooray. then I'll say the numbers are good. I can surmise my own opinion. And I ll do that as I usually do. Point is the nubmers can be sparkling and if I choose to not like her then thats MY perogative. Im not that shallow, but because YOU find her extraordinary doesnt mean everyone else will, numbers not withstanding.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

What numbers, Kaze? You're twisting my remarks, and you are smarter than that. So I assume it's an attempt to change the subject. The point is that people should provide actual facts to back up what they say about her. Melton has led a trash campaign against her, as he has many public figures and law enforcement folks over the years who might challenge his actions. If you are going to climb on board, it is YOUR responsibility to back up what you say. I can back up what I say, friend.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

I get my best information from keeping my nose to the streets, not from tv or print actually. I mean where Jackson is concerned. ...You're operating under the premise that because "we're presenting another side..with numbers" that people are automatically supposed to draw to it. But as is the case with this mayor...when people believe what they believe...well...its what they're going to believe. Having numbers is great. concrete facts, even better, but in reality that doesnt always sway public opinion Donna.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

Kaze, with due respect, you're really flailing now. First, you write about the DA: I just want to see the numbers that's all. Then, minutes later, you write about the mayor: Having numbers is great. concrete facts, even better, but in reality that doesnt always sway public opinion Donna. I give up.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

...The numbers on Faye, Donna. tried/convicted..I want more info to be able to develop a better opinion. Those are the ones Im looking for and no one has actually provided those. and if you are backing her then perhaps those figures will bolster your side of the argument. If the public is being swayed by only the high-profiled cases then they need to know her overall record. I think that would help don't you? All you're telling me is that she's a self-made woman. Thats cool. But why should the public back her?

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

So, you put your trust of keeping criminals in jail to a man who's profession it is to keep them out of jail. How many drug dealers has Smith gotten off? Murderers? Didn't the Melton case show you that Defense Attorney's will lie and twist the truth to save their client when they are clearly guilty. You can't deny he tore the house down, that youths were involved, or that he didn't have a warrant. There is nothing "right" about his actions that night. As DA, Smith cannot use the same "techniques" he does as a defense attorney, and will lose handily to other defense attorneys with the type of cases JPD brings them. The JPD is one of the worst investigative bodies in the State according to a friend who was an atty. in the DA's office. They bring bad evidence, they don't write good reports or follow-up on leads like they should. If your crime isn't on the Front Page of the Ledge you can hang up an investigation by the JPD! That is the fact, sho-nuff! Do you believe that Moore deserved the beat down Melton's gang gave him that night at the Upper Level? Or do you believe the mayor that he didn't do anything? You like it that he goes into their club or shines lights into the cars at a local gay bar in town - as he did after taking office? At what point to you go back to high school and lean on those morals they taught you?

pikersam

May 11 2007

But as is the case with this mayor...when people believe what they believe...well...its what they're going to believe. Having numbers is great. concrete facts, even better, but in reality that doesnt always sway public opinion Donna. Yeah, Hitler had them believing Jews were bad too. Morals man, morals... You can't leave them behind at the door.

pikersam

May 11 2007

Speaking of numbers...The JPD is constantly hammered about not putting forth data. Understandable. But what about our judges, DAs and Sherrif's department? How do we hold them accountable? Election for a lot of these folks is based solely on name recognition and precious little about merit...

bobnoxious

May 11 2007

Not flaling Donaa..that's waht you're saying. And usually say when you see your point is not getting across. I said *I* want to see the numbers because that will help *ME* form more of an opinion. What I added was, don't be mad however when those numbers don't sway public opinion. Im a reasonable man and I may modify my thoughts but "in reality" parading Faye's numbers is NOT going to change a lot of folks minds cuz they simply dont care about numbers. That was evidenced by the Johnson/Melton campaign and even now. Yep..i want to see em Im just saying dont think cuz they come out anybody's gonna be impressed.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

Pikersam...morals? you're better than the rest of us? or are you angry because you see no way that anyone can back support the mayor? Seeming as how I dont think you think you're better, then I will say its the latter. Alot of folks find it impossible that the mayor would have the support he does..but he does pike. Thats reality. You are no more morally upstanding than I or anyone. Mama raised a good respesctable young man. No I dont agree with Moore being beaten and probably hate the police more than a lot of folks. But because we dont see eye to eye on that doesnt make you morally superior and it doesnt make me or anyone who disagrees with you wrong.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

Not flaling Donaa..that's waht you're saying. Obviously, it's what I said. I just wrote it. But thanks for pointing that out. And usually say when you see your point is not getting across. Ah, I see. I challenge you to be consistent and make a coherent point, and that means that I am upset that you don't agree with me. Kaze, don't insult my intelligence because you're backed in a corner. People can read what's been written here so far. I'm not "mad" about anything, Kaze. Why is it that when a woman challenges your weak and inconsistent arguments, that she's "mad," "angry" or a "hater"? Please. You can do better than this. And I don't actually think I brought up anything about "Faye's numbers"—you were the one wanting to see those. I actually talked about people backing up their assertions about her with facts and proof (whether about her sex life or anything else). I would demand that they do the same thing for you. I do agree with you—if I am deciphering correctly—that too many people kneejerk and believe rhetoric. That has sadly been true for a very long time in our world and has gotten us in a lot of trouble. In fact, that is the reason I started out here challenging you to demand facts before jumping to, or parrotting, conclusions that are put out there for self-serving reasons. So thank you for making my point for me.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Just saw your comments to Pike. Kaze, stop it with the accusations of other people and telling them/us what our motives are. You're making an a$$ out of yourself right now and acting like a troll who is p!ssy because everyone doesn't agree with him. Pike didn't say he's better than anyone else—which you imply about yourself on a regular basis. Get off your high horse here. Do you not even understand the implication of your own words about people not believing the facts? You are, indeed, dismissing the idea of "morals" and "the truth," even if you don't mean to.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

....Case in point (maybe this will get you to see what Im saying). The "numbers" are not favorable to the mayor. Crime is up. Arrests down. Some officers don't know how to discharge their weapons LOL. No glaring head-line grabbing drug arrests. Didnt deny destroying a house. that's just the obvious stats...If this was a scoreboard TECHNICALLY. the mayor would have no points in his favor. In a perfect world, citizens would see no new movement in the war on crime and turn on the crime-fighting mayor. However, he support is still strong and perhaps you dont see how in the world that could be happening. It may even anger you. Some of these folks are intelligent, smart, stabel people. All of them are not "crazy" as some folks say. they've seen those numbers and still support him.. And will continue to because ultimately they feel something will get done.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

Dude, I'm certainly not a better person then you or many other people. But, I take to heart what I was taught; and I try my best to do the right things over the wrong things a majority of the time. You can't say the same thing about the mayor. Yep, I certainly can't see how people could support a man who has little no no morals towards fellow men. (especially women) Am I angry? No. Highly sadden by our fellow man, and decline of City Services? Yes! When you support him, you support his comments about the citizens, you support his questionable past, you support the violation of property and civil rights. That is not being moral or a good American. You cannot have it both ways with the Mayor. Men cannot function above the law. I agree with Kingfish, it may just be best to back away and watch this train wreck happen just to prove a point. BTW: Didn't he mention that he leads 150 kids on a walk around the YMCA then they go back to the pool? Ummm... Mayor didn't it cost you millions when you had over 100 kids in the pool before? Oh Dennis Sweet! See Kaze, he doesn't learn. And, that is the worst kind of man there is! Let's go steal some water!

pikersam

May 11 2007

However, he support is still strong and perhaps you dont see how in the world that could be happening. It may even anger you. Some of these folks are intelligent, smart, stabel people. All of them are not "crazy" as some folks say. they've seen those numbers and still support him.. Exactly how strong is his support? I'm not denying that he has a lot of support, but could you care to share those numbers with us?

golden eagle

May 11 2007

sigh...you obviously didt read my post donna...sheesh! ..."Seeming as how I dont think you think you're better, then I will say its the latter." Did ya read that huh? Dont think ya did. And to add it was pike making the moral judgement statement. But the assumption I guess that if you dont completely agree with HIm on this issue then you are morally questionable is cool though right? ..."I'm not "mad" about anything, Kaze. Why is it that when a woman challenges your weak and inconsistent arguments, that she's "mad," "angry" or a "hater"? Please. ".. OMG where did THAT come from..You've really got a hang-up about that. I said the same about Pike being angry, but hater never crossed my lips. Ya feelin yaself a bit much on that one. You pulled that woman issue outta thin air. And you are angry, despondent, confused, intrigued, saddened, don't know what exactly again that your arguments are just nopt going to sway some people. And the fact that that doesnt make them crazy or wrong or morally inept confuses you I guess. ..Im an educated, intelligent, well-traveled, upstanding guy and I disagree with you on some mayor issues. And there many like me. You think I should agree with you...that's the point Im trying to make. We simply don't agree on all those issues. so stop with the Im trolling, or flailing or Im making an ass outta myself. Im stating how I feel. And whether i have numbers or not at this point it STILL how I feel.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

You are right, he is mayor and has support. But, that doesn't mean we should take it from behind and keep our mouths shut. Nor does that mean I can't question and challenge the folks who do support him. I find it hard to believe that people who go to church can actually support Melton, and still feel right about praying to God. God would never expect a fellow man to be like Melton. Period! End point! The good he supposedly does will never balance out the bad he is doing.

pikersam

May 11 2007

..And for the last time even *I* don't agree with everything that fella does..I said it above. He's wacky by the simplest of standards, but he' struck a nerve with some folks. And they will support him regardless. When he's wrong, as it was with the house issue, then I will say its wrong. But his popularity is going to carry him far. that's reality. If an election was held today by the most credible, fair people, you could find. and monitored by every group or official you could drum up, he'd win again! I dont have numbes G.E. but i'd bet they are juuuuuust slightly above the opposition.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

Well Pike..Im not saying stay silent. Keep up the dialogue. Keep putting the facts out there. May work. may not. But its not your call to make on whether or not folks that go to church should support him. You cant pass judgement on them. and you have no idea what God feels about the mayor. thats betwen God and him. and you certainly can't say or see what's on the mayor's heart. See that God issue is a real touchy one for me cuz ya can't quantify what I would do based on what YOU think I should. I dont lose any sleep and I still pray to God regardless of whether the mayor is in office or not. He is...and when the time comes he will have to stand and be judged just like all of us. And if its been shady dealings then he'll have his consequences set before him then.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

Exactly how strong is his support? I'm not denying that he has a lot of support, but could you care to share those numbers with us? g eagle It's a complex system on winning and keeping the vote; but, one that has been refined by the many churches, and pollsters in MS and the south. It is very easy to spread lies among the people who are the most vulnerable. The poor, the elderly, and the uneducated. Funny, those are usually who you want in a jury pool. Hmmm?

pikersam

May 11 2007

I find it hard to believe that people who go to church can actually support Melton, and still feel right about praying to God. I believe it, Pike. When you have ministers in the community that support him, it confuses people, especially in a culture that discourages independent thought. Also, if church folks can leave Sunday morning service, lynch a man and take pictures while still in their best attire, I'm not shocked by this either.

LatashaWillis

May 11 2007

Let's see, the mayor says he doesn't give a shit what the people want. He has a gangster say the DA is "f#$%ing a bail bondsman. He protects criminals wanted by the police. A kid shot himselef at his house. Two boys are mysteriously dead after making accusations against the mayor. A boy drowned in pool under his watch. He lied about the amount of children in the pool at the time and the condition of the water. He settled! So, did Michael Jackson! He has Hickingbottom even say far worse things about people in town on radio and in the paper. The mayor has chicken winged a reporter, said he would "cream" another and said Ladd had a big mouth. All women Kaze! "I'm going to own this hospital come tomorrow!" I sure hope God knows what is in his heart! Because Karma is a bitch!

pikersam

May 11 2007

well pike..it sure is...And it will have its due. But understand that that always goes both ways. I don't stand in judge of him. Some of his actions are questionable. Hell, downright shady. But the assumption that its just the poor, elderly, and uneducated is not wholly the case. What you fail to understand, or dont want to, is that those folks dont make up ALL his support. He's got some perfectly upstanding, intelligent, well-read folks in his corner. In fact, if he didnt, Id go so far as to say he'd be having a much worse time of it than he is.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

Kaze, in Jackson if you can capture a majority of the votes from the groups I mentioned; then the middle, upper middle and rich are marginalized in a city wide election. If you don't think the mass busing of elderly and disababled voters happens by the churches then you need to work some campaigns. The worst is when the person who brings them says they "have" to go into the booth to "help" them vote. More votes are "made" that way than dead vote in Chicago!

pikersam

May 11 2007

BTW: I am all for getting people to the polls who need the help. I am wholly against it being done by Churches and paid campaigners! The City should provide free and specialized bus routes on election days!

pikersam

May 11 2007

Kamikaze, I don't want you to agree with me on every issue. That would be boring. I want you to make sense, which you don't always—in part, because you don't even seem to take time to re-read your posts before hitting "submit." I'm trying to challenge you to make arguments in a way that people can actually understand what you're saying. I believe you can, or I wouldn't challenge you to do so. I will say this once nicely: Do NOT assign another motive to me. That is NOT your right. And you regularly get it wrong on top of that, and it's an insult. In other words, tell us what's on your mind, in a way that makes a lick of sense, and don't tell me what I'm thinking. Got it?

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

(Oh, and you're not real credible on the women issue, y'know. That's your doing; not mine.)

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Folks, the podcast for the radio show today is up. See link up above.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Donna..Ive made it quite clear whats on my mind. Didnt know THAT was the issue LOL. You've read my posts. think Ive been clear. crystal. I have had by the way Pike and you...tell ME what *I* was thinking or what my motives are. But I suppose that won't be called into question. lets see if this clears it up. what's on my mind? Ok... if you're waiting for me to jump up and shout and scream at how horrible a job the mayor is doing..not gonna do it. I dont think he's the problem. There has been a systematic decay in our neighborhoods that began over 10 years ago. Long before the mayor stepped in. The conditions that came from that decay brought to today the mindset some of our disenfranchised young folks have. At the very least...the mayor has reached out. It may seem strange and a few may have fallen through the cracks but have you ever asked how many were helped? how many turned out better because somebody gave a damn? when you spoke of Faye, you spoke about folks only seeing the high profile cases..and with the mayor, the only young folks they focus on are the ones who get BACK into trouble, Walker, Bibbs, etc. fact is, you're gonna have some that cant be saved. No matter how hard you try to help them. but...there's another side to the story. He may drop the ball in some cases but he did try which is alot more than I can say for a lot of folks. 2. Not suggesting that any of you stop talking, or commenting, or asking questions. that is your right to do so. continue to criticize. Although I think in this case its futile, it does open up a dialogue and puts some key issues out there. I honestly believe that you will have to catch him with his hand in the cookie jar so to speak. Otherwise he will emerge unscathed every time. 3. I don't blindly follow the mayor. Have drank no ones Kool Aid and am withholding to no man on this Earth. I disagree with plenty that he does and he's full aware. 4. whatever dirt he's done, if any, he will have to make an accounting for it with God at the alloted time. I do not stand in judge of him. I don't know his heart. But as I said when my organization endorsed him, I believe his heart is where it needs to have an inclusive, accesible, government that includes the lesser of us. I especially like his attention to the impoverished hoods in jackson. No I cant tangibly put my finger on one achievement but...He's there and accesible to the least of us and thats something that past administrations lacked. 5. I am niether poor, elderly, or uneducated. Again Im an intelligent, educated man who doesnt agree with ya'll on some issues regarding the mayor. and there are some like me. So now how do you explain that? i guess that's cool. and frankly I think that makes PERFECT sense. in the end, instead of looking everyday for the amyor has done wrong, or lied about, or screwedup, or destroyed(which honestly will keep you busy) I choose to work in spite of whos the mayor and help this city progress as all citizens should do. the mayor isnt stopping me from doing anything. ...Cuz eventually he may not BE mayor and when he's gone and the problems are still here (cuz we spent sooo much time trying to get the mayor outta office) THEN who will we blame?

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

Kaze, you've just blatantly twisted my words again, which is really starting to annoy me. You are perfectly capable of scrolling back up and re-reading that my comments to you were about the trashing of the DA, not about wanting you to agree with my take on Melton. I could care less if you agree with me, frankly, but I do want your comments here to make some degree of sense in order to further dialogue. As a refresher, I wrote to you way above, based on Pike's comments about your remarks about the DA on Kim Wade: Comments backed up by hard facts should be taken at face value, Kaze. And if you're going to trash the D.A., you ought to have facts at your disposal. If not, you run the risk of sounding like you're part of Melton's trash brigade. And I doubt you want people to think that about you. This was never about you agreeing with me about Melton. I think you doth protest too much (and incorrectly, to boot).

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Kaze you can be both critical of the mayor and continue working to make the city progress. And its not really being critical if you play off as that's just frank being crazy ass frank but atleast he cares. And your not sitting in judgment if you believe frank's actions are making things worse not better. That's holding an elected official accountable. The same with faye petterson. How can you say its time for a change for her but not for the mayor because a change in administration won't really change anything. Why say the D.A. and sherrif need to go if you're not going to hold the mayor accountable? If you're really so cynical of politicians why hold those two accountable and not the mayor? And why in your defense of the mayor you always speak of his support and that no matter what he will be reelected? That's not a defense or leadership, that is just following the crowd. if he wasn't popular would you call for a new mayor like you called for a new D.A.?

jd

May 11 2007

As I said..my comments made perfect sense. I heard you the first time. just read 'em. When or if I ever see the track record, I will make an evaluation then. but at that point, if I see her record and still call for a change, thats MY perogative. The numbers may sway me and they may not.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

And Jay..I just choose to accentuate the positive. Its not about doing both for me. Cuz honestly those that are being critical will never have time to do anything else cuz he's gonna keep ya busy watching him. Going on and on about the mayor is an exercise in futility in my opinion cuz at the days end. He's still gonna be the mayor. and We've go two more years. He's gonna continue his unorthodox methods but stop just short of getting in trouble cuz he knows 3's the charm! With that, hesgoing to continue to drive you folks crazy as he gains more and more popularity. In a perfect world, folks would simply ignore him but that cant happen cuz folks in the media have jobs to do....but in that scenario, the lack of attention would drive him sooooo crazy that he would easily screw up again and he could be removed. but with each passing day he gets more popular and mythic as folks here tell him hes horrible and Geraldo tells him he's great on nationwide TV. Its a biggerpicture here Jay and the mayor doesnt have to be in it for jackson to prosper. I guess what Im saying is...frankly. You're up against an advesary that you wont beat unless you change your tactics. You all can get exactly what you want if you modify and adjust your strategy....But this way...hell, you're just feeding the beast.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

Dang Kaze everybody jumping on you today. LOL hang in there.

MartyG

May 11 2007

oh and your last post is the truth. Sho nuff! The more you play into problems the bigger they become.

MartyG

May 11 2007

Cuz honestly those that are being critical will never have time to do anything else cuz he's gonna keep ya busy watching him. Kaze, I don't know what world you live in, but in my world, it is not difficult to engage in a number of different things, and ideas, and actions at once. And you spend so much of your time trying to silence, or belittle, other people with such comments that I don't know how you have time to write songs! But you manage, don't you. Like you, other people are perfectly capable of being critical of and vocal about important issues, and manage to do a thing or two useful with their time. So don't lose any sleep over that on our behalf, friend. We'll struggle along doing our civic duty and managing to get one or two other things accomplished as well, your hyperbole aside. Going on and on about the mayor is an exercise in futility in my opinion cuz at the days end. He's still gonna be the mayor. Futility, my a$$. As a result of a more-critical citizenry, Melton's actions are now under the microscope, and it's much harder for him to violate people's rights (or perhaps kill himself or others) due to the scrutiny and criticism he's drawn. And with any luck, he's taking better care of himself and not hitting the bottle so hard. Before his arrest last year, there was indication that he saw any boundaries for himself. You're up against an advesary that you wont beat unless you change your tactics. Oooo, I love all the battle rhetoric. So what would you have everyone do—line up with our hands out, hoping he fills it with a few dollars or empty promises to give us jobs? Join all those adoring masses, and turn our heads as he violates people's rights on our behalf? Right, Kaze. You do things your way, and I'll continue to do things in a way that I can live with myself. BTW, please provide the information on that Farish Street committee you mentioned.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

And, MartyG, don't forget that Melton-the-larger-than-life-folk-hero was created precisely because he wasn't challenged over the years. It is duly noted that you guys think he is untouchable; it's remarkable to me that you're so accepting of that fact. To each his or her own. But I've said it many times: It ain't over 'til it's over.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Kaze, I would advise that you end the conversation at this point. To proceed any further will only frustrate you and be pointless.

MartyG

May 11 2007

but at that point, if I see her record and still call for a change, thats MY perogative. Of course it is. Who has told you it ISN"T? Why is it that when someone expresses an opinion different from yours, or challenges you to back up assertions about other people with facts, that you turn it into someone telling you that you can't express a viewpoint? You're not the only one who does this—I hate to tell you that you can have an opinion, and others can disagree. When is the last time you've seen me, for instance, try to say you're telling me I don't have the right to an opinion because you disagree with me. That makes no sense. As the moderator of this here site, I challenge you to back up assertions about others with facts, and avoid ad hominems (which includes stating as fact what other people's motives are). Why not calm down over the fact that others have different viewpoints and talk about issues, instead of always trying to make it so personal? It's when you do that, that I have to dump the cold water on you because that is akin to a personal attack. And if you don't know the difference, I'm out of ways to explain it.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Also, Kaze, are you saying that your support of an elected official is all about their arrest/prosecution numbers? If so, what do you think of JPD's reporting no drug-sales arrests last year? I tried to ask you this before—what numbers are you talking about? But you seem too busy trying to berate me for disagreeing with you (even when I'm not) to actually answer real questions. Like: What numbers do you mean? Like: What are the details of the Farish Street committee?

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

..."And, MartyG, don't forget that Melton-the-larger-than-life-folk-hero was created precisely because he wasn't challenged over the years." ..on the contrary..it was created because he fashioned himself that Bufford Pusser type character. It filled a void that some folks were looking for at the time. And when antagonized you're making him more of a symbol. Don't stop by any means, do your job Donna and I know you will but it's raising his profile to mythic proportions. and once he rises there, the fall will be much farther but much harder to come by. ..Sorry Donna that you're so disappointed. But I just deal in real. and I just refuse to put my time into getting on him. I choose to put it elsewhere. you do it your way..And Ill do it mine. and if we can agree on that then we're cool. In the end we'll both meet in the middle and make the city a better place agreed?

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

.it was created because he fashioned himself that Bufford Pusser type character. Right. And no one challenged him on it. He couldn't do it alone, Kaze. I don't find that you "deal in real" very often, Kaze, at least not here. Your posts are filled with rhetoric for the most part—usually about people you disagree with. If not, prove me wrong and answer the "real" questions I just asked you, and have numerous times. We already agree to do things our way. I'm actually not putting out public proclamations about how everything you do is wrong, as you are me. I am challenging you to back up specific things *you* say about other people. You respond with these generalizations about me. Personally, I think that hurts you more than it does me, but hey. That's just my opinion. ;-) And your implication that all I do is criticize the Melton is, with due respect, plain ignorant. You rather remind me of Melton with those kinds of remarks. He gets challenged and lashes out instead of answering the questions right in front of him.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Also, your logic in that last post is flailing again. First, you say that the lack of media coverage, or public criticism, had nothing to do with his folk-hero status. Then, you tell me that my criticism of him is raising him to mythic proportions. Do I really have to point out that you're contradicting yourself again? Kaze, you can just stop wasting your breath trying to tell me to start ignoring the mayor's antics. They've been ignored long enough, and I do not have the ability as many in this city do to ignore the constitutional rights of some our most powerless citizens. Just don't. And, along the way, I'll see if I can manage to find a few seconds to, say, figure out that an old Klansman is still alive and help him get prosecuted. Or, host an event to raise thousands of dollars to fight domestic violence. Or something or another trivial.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

..on the contrary..it was created because he fashioned himself that Bufford Pusser type character. It filled a void that some folks were looking for at the time. And when antagonized you're making him more of a symbol. kaze Yep, and Bull Conner filled a gap some folks were looking for at the time! So, why did Melton close the police sub-station on Farish St. a year ago? The little things... it's the little things that get forgotten.

pikersam

May 11 2007

Touche, Pike, Touche.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

BTW, WAPT is reporting a "political truce" between Allen and Melton. Did they catch this little ditty about Larkin?

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

It was a pretty.. um... "soft" interview. Look, Ben, you are not doing any favors when you throw softball questions. You want more callers that would ask harder questions? No, I don't think you do. I sincerely believe that there are certain types of calls and callers you do not want, nor would you accept. Here is a question: When Melton said that a bunch of kids were smoking pot around this certain house... does that make it a pot house? And, since we know the answer is yes, why is that house still standing? Isn't pot still illegal? Is pot less illegal than "crack?" LC

LawClerk

May 11 2007

I don't know his heart. Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. - Matthew 12:33 (KJV) That's how you know his heart. What kind of fruit is he bearing? Let's be real about this.

LatashaWillis

May 11 2007

Well cool. whatever. nothing but the uptmost respect for what you do. Really we're on the same page actually i just choose to do things another way. dont want to feel as if you feel you're more "upstanding" or more concerned about those same powerless citizens that I fight for too. again, if we agree on that Im good. My way works for me and works to the same end you're woeking for. Let that not ever be disputed.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

Good to see you reading during the show. Tell Kim "hey" and thanks for mentioning me. It's my big radio day, it seems. ;-) I haven't tried to turn this into a competition. That's all you. You're the one who regularly declares that you're the one doing things and other people are just talking too much. I'm simply pointing out to you the error of your assertion about those of us who dare to criticize Frank Melton. You should stop mixing up someone trying to have a conversation with you, and challenge you to back up your factual assertions about other people (or, defense of misogynistic lyrics) with your near-delusional concept that it means that being challenged means you are doing everything in your life/work wrong. Good Lord how silly that is. And it's equally as silly when you return such an argument on others—that because we don't agree with you (or challenge you to back up your statements) that somehow means that we are wasting all our time talking about FM and couldn't possibly be doing good things with the rest of our time. Kaze, you just have to be bigger than that. Obviously, I don't think you're a complete schmuck or useless, or I wouldn't have offered you a blog and column space. I don't just dole that out to anybody on the street with an axe to grind. I give forums to people who can get other people to think. But that also doesn't mean I'm going to allow you to sling personal attacks all over, and inform people what their motives are from on high, without challenging you to back them up. In other words, try to not continually blow what people say out of proportion. And work on lining up those facts to keep me off your back. ;-)

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Kaze, you really are all over the map on this one. When you called for the defeat of Peterson and the sheriff, was that accentuating the positive? Clearly not. So your policy of accentuating the positive only applies sometimes, specifically to Melton. So why should anyone give a shit that you choose to accentuate the positive only when and how it suits you? It would be different if you were a hare krishna or something and you always focused on the positive. But if someone asked, "Why do you support Bush?" and I replied, "I just like to accentuate the positive," most people would rightly regard my answer as callow bull shit. The posts you've made today are contradictory and deeply, deeply unconvincing. You attack anyone who is critical of Melton as being obsessed, which is rather ugly. It's also shortsighted and undemocratic, because all of us, media and otherwise, have a responsibility to hold leaders accountable. There is nothing personal about this. It sounds like you're just regurgitating the everything-is-personal rhetoric of the likes of Parker-Weaver. Your contention that the media covers Melton because "we have jobs to do" is much like the dismissal Melton likes to issue himself. "Y'all just want to sell newspapers." That is a pathetic response to criticism because it dodges questions entirely, and it implictly smears those who ask. Your suggestion that when the mayor is no longer mayor, we will be to blame for the problems because we "spent sooo much time trying to get the mayor outta office" is both ridiculous and offensive. You also have this triumphalism about Melton that I find disturbing. You seem to really enjoy the fact that Melton will never be held accountable. (I, for one, think he will be held accountable, and your talk of his mythic status will look very foolish, but I'll just wait for the other shoe to drop.) This is not about "beating" an "adversary." This is about telling the truth. How can you applaud the failure of democratic accountability? You have a right to your opinion, but when you talk out both sides of your mouth, as you have today, you raise the question: Why should anyone care about your opinion?

Brian C Johnson

May 11 2007

Your suggestion that when the mayor is no longer mayor, we will be to blame for the problems because we "spent sooo much time trying to get the mayor outta office" is both ridiculous and offensive. Well said, Brian. And it's illogical, to boot.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

And I still look forward to answers to those "real" questions I posed.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

you guys arent comprehending the written word today huh? ."....Cuz eventually he may not BE mayor and when he's gone and the problems are still here (cuz we spent sooo much time trying to get the mayor outta office) THEN who will we blame?" I was asking, before you jumped down my throat, that WHO are we going to blame when the mayor is gone? There will come a day when he's not in office and when the problems persist because we didnt adeqately address them WHO will be blamed. Not YOU will be blamed. cmon.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

Um, Kaze. We are criticizing Melton for his actions, or lack of them. This is our civic duty. He is a public servant. Get over yourself if you don't like it, and stop wasting our time trying to silence us. I'm really tired of it.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Now, about those "real" questions. Kamikaze, please give us the details of the Farish Street "committee" that the city is forming. This is public information; please provide it.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

And Brian emailed me earlier and got those "answers"" and thats all Ive got to say on that. Thats a personal crusade Im a part of to get things moving on Farish. ..And i don't attack anyone with a different opinion but I snap back when Im told Im morally inept, poor, uneducated, making an Ass of myself on any other generality because I choose not to focus on the mayor. You guys can do that all you like. Im not stopping you. Not suggesting you stop. But don't look at me like Im some kind of anamoly because you feel my argument is off the wall. Im as democratic, responsible, and God-fearing as the next guy. I love this city and plan to do my part in helping thrive. I get pissed when you insuate im undemocratic or you're "disturbed" by my triumphalism because Im not calling for Melton's head. Cmon man. Im no different than any of you here. So if I must Ill refrain from jumping in these discussions. You want me to stop posting as If Im accusing you guys of blogging from upon high well...

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

It's also shortsighted and undemocratic, because all of us, media and otherwise, have a responsibility to hold leaders accountable. brian I long for a scene on the steps of City Hall with Adam or Brain screaming, "But Sir, the people demand an answer!" Like the cinematic portrayal of a journalist. ;-) I did think Kaze said "who are we going to blame then" in his defense.

pikersam

May 11 2007

WOW! how many times do I have to say this. When have I said be silent? cmon. Are you just TRYING to get a rise outta me. Ive said 20 ways to sunday keep asking questions, keep criticizing, keep talking you're just trying to make me look real silly I guess. I looked back and saw it at least twice in my posts. but after all that I said DO YOU. Youve got your way and ive got mine. They're both working towards the same end. Don't be silent, please. cuz Im not either.

Kamikaze

May 11 2007

This statement by you, Kaze: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a perfect world, folks would simply ignore him but that cant happen cuz folks in the media have jobs to do....but in that scenario, the lack of attention would drive him sooooo crazy that he would easily screw up again and he could be removed. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< *****really***** surprised me. Perfect for whom? Are you seriously suggesting that a public official should be able to do anything he/she wants without the citizens of the entity he/she serves knowing about it? With the press 'looking the other way'??? Are you suggesting that we give public officials carte blanche? That's not how it works in a democracy. Yes, media outlets are commercial enterprises so they have to sell newspapers and/or ad space to survive, but no one at the JFP made up FM's actions in Ridgway Street, at the Jackson Airport, at the MBN or anywhere else just to sell ad space. The 'negative' about this city administration is not fantasy; it's what's actually been happening - and that includes cronyism, arrogance, and much more. We owe the JFP a huge vote of thanks for keeping us as informed about this administration (and city otherwise) as it has ever since it started publication.

lucdix

May 11 2007

Thanks, lucdix. We take our journalistic charge of holding public servants accountable and will continue to, no matter how much grief that causes Kaze. Kaze, the problem with your posts if that you so regularly contradict yourself that any of us can find a statement where you say one thing and then turn around and change your tune and then complain because someone called you out on something you just plainly said. You've berated us over and over and over and over again for wasting our time criticizing the mayor. Personally, I call that an attempt to silence. I don't care what you call it. Or not call it. Or call it again. I'm dizzy from all the flipflopping. Frankly, I'm wasting far more of my time at this point trying to get you to be consistent and support your statements about others than anything else. So I'm going to stop and do something more useful; I'm sure I can think of something, even though you describe me as so obsessed with Melton that I don't manage to get anything else done. And, just so you know, if the city had anything to do with that committee, as I'm hearing that they did, it is open record, and we will fight to let sunshine in. And your reticence to talk about it in public is very troubling to me. What's so secret about it? But as usual, we will do what we need to pry the information loose for the public to see. So, thanks for the tip. Also to the others who e-mailed us info on it today.

DonnaLadd

May 11 2007

Oh yeah, I am really upset that Ben Allen would use the wonderfully great song "Ripple" by the Grateful Dead with Melton on the show. If anyone is not worthy of a "Ripple" it is Melton. Somewhat fitting; yet he's not worthy! ;-)

pikersam

May 11 2007

I'm the obsessed one, I thought. :-) But, I pay taxes, I support some JFP advertisers, and work and live in Jackson. God, I love America! All work and no play makes Pike a dull boy. All work and no play makes Pike a dull boy. All...

pikersam

May 11 2007

Oh yeah, I am really upset that Ben Allen would use the wonderfully great song "Ripple" by the Grateful Dead with Melton on the show. If anyone is not worthy of a "Ripple" it is Melton. Somewhat fitting; yet he's not worthy! ;-) It was kinda amusing that Frank didn't know who Jerry Garcia was.

golden eagle

May 11 2007

I think this is more appropriate: confused

Kingfish

May 12 2007

This will also help you deal with Melton: dysfunction remedy

Kingfish

May 12 2007

Pickersam, I understand exactly what you were saying and I agree totally. It is too bad that your wisdom and evidenced facts have fallen upon deaf ears. It is also sad that there is a divide among the citizens of Jackson; some of us don't know progress. Some of us are lulled into a false sense of progress by the opium of ignorance. So, keep putting the facts out there, Pickersam; many of us feed on them because your STUFF can be evidenced.

justjess

May 14 2007

justjess, you just made me blush! Thank you! :-) We get 'crazy' sometimes; but, when that craziness is based on facts (often ignored by Meltonites) then it is a good "obsession!" Your 'therapy' comment on another thread was very fitting too! I thank the stars JFP allows the free flow of thoughts on the blogs.

pikersam

May 14 2007

Everything is so quiet on the homefront. See what happens when Jackson's action is quelled, suppressed, allayed and rendered scared, powerless or incapable? Somebody had to put the funk in soul, the dip in swing, the bump in rock, the body in rap, the twang in country, et al., else we had nothing to galvanize, excite and incite to action. This town was dead until he came to town. We gotta decide whether we desire to live lively or die quietly. I aver giving him back the recreational vehicle, his crew, and adding the hellicopter this time. I refuse to live or die with boredom as my unwanted friend and constant companion. We need something exciting to talk about. Something shocking to behold. He was peerless at providing this service. I want the old Frank back, and I aint ashamed to say it.

Ray Carter

May 14 2007

Actually Ray, before the Ridgeway incident the curfew and state of emergency was recently lifted, and it was relatively quiet in the news - mayor-wise. This is just the calm before the storm.

pikersam

May 14 2007

Don't worry, Ray. Soon the sound of chirping crickets will be drowned out by God-knows-what-else.

LatashaWillis

May 14 2007

Well Ray, my friend, the "Old Frank" can't come back as he once was because he has destroyed all that was reasonable, productive and that made sense. He has hired felons, unqualified, uncouth, amoral, the wicked and those with behaviors akin to the Ku-Klux Klan. He has performed a dereliction of his mayoral duties, ignored projects that would have been meaniful to this city: He has lied time after time and made promises that a 5 yr. old could see through. Ps. Bt the way, what's up with Congressman Tompson's declaration that he has never seen such "egregious" spending of Homeland Security money. Usually with federal monies, misappropriation of funds, there is investigation, litigation and often incarceration. Some more fun is in the making as the City Council might be asked to reinburse the City in ther zeal to blindly follow and FUND frank. He has been a total negative model to those who tried to learn from him and the youngsters who continue to admire him. His public drunkiness, vulgarity laced with nasty words unbefitting to even the slimiest of the slime. This town had wonderful seeds planted and many had taken root with the expectation of a fruitful future. The King Edwards Project, Farish Street Project to include businesses for all types of entertainment, and the Convention Center (just to mention a few). The Mobile Command Unit "recreationsl vehicle" was costing tax payers $1,000/day + body-guard pay at the rate of 24/7. The "New frank" is in the right cotton field to get a 100. He is moving his war into a zone where he will find out who the real bosses are. So far, he as been a one-man recking crew: Just wait until the bricks start flying back from people who know how to take care of themselves. Maybe we can start playing cards after work or meeting at the firing range to shoot our guns for some excitement. (LOL) I'm afraid that frank fun has laughed this city into bankruptcy and we are threatening receivership.

justjess

May 14 2007

And so it begins again.... Suspects sought in 2 separate armed robberies in Jackson from the CL. About 11:49 p.m., the manager of Zaxby’s Chicken Fingers & Buffalo Wings on Ridgewood Court said he was closing the store when he was approached by a man with a knife, who forced him back into the restaurant. The suspect then forced the manager to open the restaurant’s safe and empty its contents into a bag. The man was last seen wearing a greed hood, khaki pants and a stocking over his head. A JPD detective responded to the scene and the Mobile Command Unit was called. Yep, that's what the MCU is for, going to 'run of mill' burglary sites in the middle of the night. Maybe the crew just wanted some chicken fingers. ;-) Also, anyone of y'all seen the older JPD Bus that sits behind old Precinct 4? You know he's desperate to ride to crime scenes if you end up seeing him in that! He must keep it close for backup! ;-) He is still on probation from the other plea deal.

pikersam

May 14 2007

LW, Pike and Justjess, I hear y'all. All I can say in response is WE NEED FRANK! WE NEED FRANK! And nall they haven't shown me the money, but I'm open to it, just like any other free thinking capitalist.

Ray Carter

May 14 2007

...and Ray, you have stolen Benny Thompson's song: "THE @ITCH BETTER HAVE MY MONEY"

justjess

May 15 2007

Justjess, some people here have basically accused me of being a socialist, and I wanted them to know I'm a 90% capilatist. I'm all for the poor and downtrotten, but I'm open to the highest bidder when it comes to employment and personal enhancement as long as it's legal and moral. Bennie isn't doing anything wrong. People offer him lots of thing. Every now and again he may take a fish or ice-cream sandwich when hungry and without time to get to a store or restuarant. That's harmless.

Ray Carter

May 15 2007

Ray, I'm not talking about Benny taking money. I'm talking about melton's spending of the money in the pot from the Home-land Security Fund. It's nothing wrong with being ah honest man wanted to make some honest money. I'm all for that; however, the Frank Fund has come loose from the seme and Benn Thompson is able to see his Butt.

justjess

May 15 2007

Sorry, I see now, Justjess.

Ray Carter

May 15 2007