Jackson Free Press

Duane "Dog" Chapman has been making the rounds lately on news talk shows trying to salvage his show or his dignity(take your pick) after his son released an audio recording of him spewing racial epiteths about his son's African amercian girlfriend. Is he truly sorry? Or just sorry he got caught and had his cash cow yanked from under him? I saw him on both Larry King and Hannity and Colmes where he fought back the waterworks...He seemed contrite enough. Sounded more convincing than Michael Richards lol. What are your thoughts?

Previous Comments

ID

115570

Comment

Now Ray, to answer your question. Ive personally grown tired of this "ooooooo. this guy said the "N" word here or that guy said the "N" word there" business. It seems that every week some bufoon has gotten caught (on tape no less) using the racial slur. Ive almost become desensitized to it unfortunately. Its no secret that a lot of white folks still use the word. With deragatory intent. Its no secret that white kids are now using the word to identify themselves as cool with their Black friends. In fact, Thats what Dog used as an excuse. Never flew with me then and doesnt now. Call whatever you will, the lame excuse of "rappers" use it is tired. Im from the school of "white folks cant use it" sorry. I feel like the sting and power of that word needs to be taken from it. Nas is calling his new album "N---A" and Def Jam has given him the green light. and him being one of the "intelligent rappers" that you folks say you need to see more of, he says he's doing it to take the power from the word. Force folks to face it. Make white kids that want to get his record go up to the counter and say "do you have that new Nas record n---a?" LMAO. Hope the cashier isnt black. I wonder how THAT will sound

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2007-11-08T12:16:51-06:00

ID

115571

Comment

Oh boy, a white trash retard is exposed as a foul-mouth white trash racist retard. Wow, what a shock (rolls eyes). I’m of two minds on this incident. Personally, I really just don't care what people say at home or on the phone to their children, and I think Dog deserved a level of privacy that we ALL expect behind closed doors, including not having his phone conversation made public. I felt that way about the “controversy” over Alec Baldwin’s phone rant on his kid a few months ago, and I’m consistent in my aversion at private conversations of celebrities becoming public. I wouldn’t want many of my private phone conversations aired to the public, especially ones that could be this embarrassing, and I’m sure many of us wouldn’t either. His estranged son clearly saw an opportunity to punish his father and also make a little money out of the deal. On the other hand, now that his racist rant was exposed all of us, particularly African-American fans he may have had, can now judge him with the full knowledge of how he really feels about blacks. I don’t like thought policing, but whenever evil prejudices are exposed good people must confront them if we are to ever rid this society of racism. People are free to not like other races, or homosexuals, or other religions, but they can also be judged for their prejudices once exposed, and once exposed they should not be in positions of power or be considered as role models where they can influence others or harm the people they hate.

Author

Jeff Lucas

Date

2007-11-08T13:09:17-06:00

ID

115572

Comment

I wonder how it will sound and end up too, Kaze! Well, Michael Eric Dyson and many other valiant or ignorant brothers/sisters and relatives have tried and failed at emancipating or freeing N word from its dirty past. Plus, I can hear Ole Dog and many more like him saying "who do these n______ think I'm going to listen to: Nas or my daddy, and our daddies certainly didn't mean it affectionatley. Who can blame Ole Dog Chatman for letting out what was in him. After all, his boy is a turncoat and ingrate for loving taboo-style and for letting his Papa's secret out of the closet, isn't he?. I wish Dog Jr. and his girlfriend the best of luck, love, happiness and financial success. Yeah I saw Ole Dog on Larry King too. He said I do not hate blacks. He went on to say he's dated a few too on the down low, but he had sense enough to keep it quite, and he didn't bring them around his family or other white people. Smile. Laugh. Cry. Curse. Whatever is appropriate. I may have made up this part.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-08T13:15:00-06:00

ID

115573

Comment

Jeff, you're too smart. Like Tom Head, you're too smart. How old are you? I meant keet it "quiet." Y'all know I can't spell or write, and I'm even worse when my comedic impulses start to brew.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-08T13:19:32-06:00

ID

115574

Comment

If you can find the entire tape it'd be good to listen to it. I've only heard snippets so I'm really a position to give really sound opinion. Dog went way too far but I applaud him for owning his stuff and not trying to make excuses. I watched him for most of Larry King last night and his side of the story told a different story. According to Dog this tape was at least seven months old and happened after and incident with his wife. The girlfriend and her friends tried to goad Dog's wife into saying something ugly to them so they could sell the tape to the Enquirer. Dog called the son right after the alleged incident and this was the case. According to Dog, he was trying to protect his wife. Recently his son needed money. He'd been temporarily let go from the family bail bonding business. He'd been holding on to the tape for rainy day and he sold it. This is the same son who Dog refused to bail out on a drug charge a few years back. Dog said he needed to get clean and they'd tried everything else. That being said, it doesn't make any of it right and Dog knew it wasn't right. Even in the rant he tried to excuse the way he was using the word. He said something like, "We don't mean it like that. We just ocassionaly use the word." That was after he repeatedly called the girlfriend the N word. For what it's worth....

Author

msgrits

Date

2007-11-08T14:16:11-06:00

ID

115575

Comment

Jeff, are you saying it's alright to refer to a group of people as niggers at home with your family but just make sure you don't do it publicly. Are you saying there is nothing wrong with living a double life or faked existence? Are you saying we all wear the mask? Are you saying we're one way publicly and another way privately? Can't you see the risk at doing this? Can't we not be just one way at all times. If you're going to be a phony, you better not drink alcohol, talk on the phone, talk to anybody or leave the house. Sh1t just might slip out. Ask Ole Dog, Imus, that Seinfeld dude and many others.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-08T15:05:52-06:00

ID

115576

Comment

Who cares? Dog is irrelevant to Black America anyway... On another note, maybe it's just me, but I find it ridiculous to think a group of people can have a monopoly on a word. What sense does that really make? We didn't invent it so how do we suddenly own it? We wouldn't fly confederate flags from our porches or hang nooses from the trees in our front yards, ya know, just to take the sting and power away from those symbols! it's all the same. What happened to the days when we held ourselves to a higher standard? If our use of the term is taking away so much of its power, then why are we even having these discussions about Dog, Kramer, Imus, etc? I'm not saying we can't use it, we can say whatever we want. It's our right as citizens of this country. but, we can't act like Republicans and hold others to standards we don't uphold ourselves.

Author

eyerah

Date

2007-11-08T15:37:50-06:00

ID

115577

Comment

..."then why are we even having these discussions about Dog, Kramer, Imus, etc? "... Almost my sentiments to a tee. Soon this is going to get old. Regardless of how many white folks get caught saying the word, its not going to change those hardcore ones who've ben using it religiously for decades. there will be more especially in this age of technology. We hold ourselves to a higher standard when we show the intelligence of a people that wont let a "word" cripple us into stagnation everytime someone uses it. Al Sharpton, Niger Innis, Juan Williams, and the like Im sure have better things to do than go on tv everytime a prominent white person says the "N" word. This incident was a mirror of the Kramer and Imus incidents. And the next will be the same. Same folks, same dialogue, same outcome. Is anyone still surprised that a white person would still use that word? EXACTLY!!!!

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2007-11-08T15:48:14-06:00

ID

115578

Comment

Eyerah, You are assuming that everyone in the Black community uses the word. I don't so it's a standard I can hold a lot of people to. Irrelevant in Black America? How does that work exactly? What makes you relevant to other Americans? So is Nas irrelevant to White Americans? We can't get into that, "I doesn't matter what THEY do because they don't look like us or talk like us." It matters when any person uses the n word-whether you agree with the use or not.

Author

msgrits

Date

2007-11-08T15:54:24-06:00

ID

115579

Comment

Ray, I'm saying it’s a free country, and people are free to do, think and say whatever they wish within the privacy of their own homes and be as 2-faced in their public and private personas as they wish as long as they aren’t breaking laws. Privacy is one of our basic rights and it isn't limited to just one set or group of people. I can’t follow the managing partner at my job around 24/7 waiting to see if he will say “nigger” when he thinks no black person can hear him. It’s almost impossible. I can only judge him by his actions and the things he says in my presence, things that I observe or can prove. Don’t misunderstand my position; I’m not saying we should ignore racist people or just “get over it” or some ignorant crap like that. There are some folks who still practice hatred and if we stop pointing out instances of intolerance or institutionalized prejudice when they surface they won't go away, they'll just go unchallenged. Before Michael Richards uttered the word ‘nigger’ on a public stage I had no clue how he felt about black people and frankly didn’t care before that point. But after the incident, as a Seinfeld fan I can’t help but look at his character on the show now with a jaundiced eye. I doubt that the Seinfeld show would have survived that controversy if it had still in production at that time.

Author

Jeff Lucas

Date

2007-11-08T16:57:18-06:00

ID

115580

Comment

I saw pieces of ole dog's interview last nigh again. Can you believe he's blaming his boys for victimizing him? What kind of dog is he if he can't keep it real? Blaming somebody else because he didn't throw off his old ways. Reminds me of some other people.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-09T09:33:55-06:00

ID

115581

Comment

I got an email from someone telling me ole dog's boys were wrong for turning on him. Am I to believe the boy was wrong for trying to keep Nathan Bedford Forrest aks ole dog from calling his girlfriend the N word. Is it more important to the family that ole dog forever be able to call us the N word than to have his boy expose old dog's old ways. I suspect this emailer prefers that ole dogs keep using the word to ole dog's son protecting his girlfriend's humanity and dignity. I want tell the emailer name. I like him but he's confused, me think. I like the fact that he voices his opinion, no matter how misguided it often is.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-09T10:19:34-06:00

ID

115582

Comment

This is my last comment and lesson on this subject. That emailer who must be drinking or smoking something funny by now emailed me again. This time he said I must consider the fact that the boy really did ole dog in for money, and the fact the black lady/girlfriend tried to fight ole dog's wife, and the fact ole dog is an ex-prisoner. What a crock of bs. If we black folks can withstand 400 years of abject racism, savagery and barbarity at the hands of white folks and yet not call white folks what their record clearly states on a daily basis then I can't understand what the emailer is talking about. I guess private schools aren't really educating people better than the old and wraggly public schools.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-09T11:58:19-06:00

ID

115583

Comment

Ole dog brought it all on himself. Had he not used the word repeatedly and desired to keek using it, his boy would have been without a tape to sale. Sho Nuff and that's the double truth. Down with ole dogs! I'm out and over. Goodbye.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-09T12:15:56-06:00

ID

115584

Comment

Here is the entire rant. Warning, not office safe! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mFK0lOcbok

Author

Rico

Date

2007-11-09T12:30:48-06:00

ID

115585

Comment

Now now ray obviously you're hot about this issue and rightfully so. However, a point can be made for his son's disloyalty. Family and loyalty are important issues to a lot of folks. I could have a severe falling out with my father. Hell, we could almost come to blows. And Lord knows if I was in love with a space alien and he was prejudiced against her we would definitely have to go outback perhaps. Id get an earful sho-nuff HOWEVER, we would agree to strongly disagree within the confines of OUR family structure. the world would never know and plus I wouldnt dare, regardless of how mad I was or how bad the transgression was(except maybe murder or pedophilia) do something to jeopardize my family business. Period. Say what ya will. dog was wrong and got caught but his son sold him out for some change. (and thats partially dog's fault too 'cuz yo folks shouldnt be starvin if ya got a tv show). Dog's faux pas or any others that happen in the future is not gonna stop bigots from being bigots. they'll just be more careful not to get caught. It has to get to the point where apologies wont suffice with us.

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2007-11-09T12:35:38-06:00

ID

115586

Comment

I'm not hot, brother. I'm too relevant and highly intelligent to let some ole dumb asses upset me in real terms. I'm in the teaching and knowledge transfer business. Loyalty caused that 400 years I mentioned above, the elections of recent history and lots of other mendatious things. Kaze since you have so much understanding of depraved and demented loyalty, you shouldn't have a problem with ole dog calling you or the lady a nigger. You can't have it both ways. I forgot rappers and young whippersnappers haven't figured that out yet.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-09T12:44:24-06:00

ID

115587

Comment

Kaze, you're not the one I'm calling dumb ass. I was talking about ole dog and the likes.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-09T12:52:15-06:00

ID

115588

Comment

I know Ray. no offense taken. But quite frankly Ray. Ive been called a n---a before and doubt those will be the last instances. A few of the times it was a carload of guys who zoomed by screaming it knowing they had a reeeeeeaaalll good head start. the other times when it was in close proximity I laughed heartily at the other person's ignorance and walked off. Once in my younger days, I laughed heartily at their ignorance and then whooped their ass! Needless to say he regretted saying it at THAT moment but i doubt he stopped using it. So other than my momentary satisfaction of beating him down I probably did nothing to prevent the usage of that word in the white community. I understand depraved and demented cuz thats the world I walk out into everyday Ray. nothing under the sun surprises me anymore. Loyalty didnt cause those four-hundred years. Ignorance and (in the words of one of the greatest groups of all time Public enemy) Fear of a Black Planet is what caused it. that and the DIS-loyalty of the Africans who aided and abetted our oppressors by getting us on those boats in the first damn place.

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2007-11-09T13:09:30-06:00

ID

115589

Comment

Kamikaze, you obviously have little knowledge of Slavery or Reconstruction and what happened during and after reconstruction (Jim Crowism) to prevent full citizenship, equality, survial and humanity of black folks. I hope you're getting paid big buck to walk that clueless road you're travelling on this. And you're obviously uncaring about the real facts and suffering that caused 400 years. You're unable to quiet me with facts and real intellect but you certainly have succeeded with repulsing me with your lack of knowledge of actual black history. Unlike you, I give less credence and fault to the Africans who sold us. I doubt they knew exactly what they were doing. Some of us were sold and some of us were taken, but surely you don't know that. But I know Africans can be held responsible and accountable, but you have bought the myth and hype that Americans can't or shouldn't be. Who was ignorant? You think slaves didn't know what was happening to them after leaving the shores of Africa. You think whaite folks didn't know what they were doing? So-called fear did play a roll, but was it really fear or delusion or irrationality? Neither the disloyalty of the Africans in Africa or African Americans in America were sufficient to stop 95% of what happend to black folks in America. Some dumb fools have an irrational fear of a black planet. The knowledgeable and powerful of the world have no such fear because they know who has all the money, guns and weapons necessary to control and destroy the world. Public and you are full of you know what in this regard. You need to be re-pledged and flogged for that loyalty comment.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-09T13:40:57-06:00

ID

115590

Comment

Such a lovely discussion. Ray handing out beat-downs for those who don't toe the party line again? Blacks have to vote Democratic, right Ray?

Author

Ironghost

Date

2007-11-09T13:56:05-06:00

ID

115591

Comment

Of course not Ghost. They don't even vote for their best interest, but you do, which explains why you vote like you do.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-09T13:59:19-06:00

ID

115592

Comment

I'm gone for good this time. Politics weren't really a part of this thread. Leave it to Ghost to come on and try to harm me. He's true to his calling.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-09T14:02:53-06:00

ID

115593

Comment

As a woman, I'm probably am giving dog a lot of leeway because he became famous by finding a fugitive that had raped 80 women and videotaped those rapes. You remember the Max Factor heir that no one could find.

Author

msgrits

Date

2007-11-09T14:24:09-06:00

ID

115594

Comment

This comment is just for you, msgrits. I never said there wasn't any good in him (there is probably lots of good in him), and I've never said he couldn't be redeeemed or salvaged. I'm all for this happening. I'm not condemning the man at all. But since a bold and smart negro is saying the things I'm saying. Lots of unstated things get read into the equation. I just don't like the fact that so many people think this is ok to do what he did then cry wolf. No one is perfect. I'm certainly not. i try to do good and watch my back. Ironghoat could be standing behind me. He, he. All we can do is try to be our best. It's a neverending struggle that takes daily work to overcome the hand somebody else dealt us too.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-09T14:34:09-06:00

ID

115595

Comment

My writings are proof of my imperfections. I'm really gone this time.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-09T14:36:38-06:00

ID

115596

Comment

We must quit paying attention to these "celebrities" that contribute nothing to society, culture, or human life in general. This man has the absolute right of self-expression. If you do not like what he says, ignore him. Allowing him to upset you places him in a position of power over you. He is a fool, treat him like one.

Author

Willezurmacht

Date

2007-11-12T15:40:17-06:00

ID

115597

Comment

It wasn't/isn't him (ole dog) that I'm concerned about. I know well what he is and what his problem is. It's the many others not celebrities that I'm concerned about. You know, the ones I have to engage with and encounter on a daily, weekly or yearly basis. I only used him for a larger discussion and purpose. Why do so many people assume I'm upset? I'm not. It's really hard to upset me. Who knows whetehr I'm even serious? What you see is only my raw and down home way of provoking a discussion.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-12T15:49:52-06:00

ID

115598

Comment

I agree with this. Dog, Imus, Mel Gibson, etc. are all insignificant in my world; I'm much more concerned with the attitudes of the folk I deal with around here. We must quit paying attention to these "celebrities" that contribute nothing to society, culture, or human life in general. This man has the absolute right of self-expression. If you do not like what he says, ignore him. Allowing him to upset you places him in a position of power over you. He is a fool, treat him like one.

Author

Jeff Lucas

Date

2007-11-12T16:00:53-06:00

ID

115599

Comment

Colored people are just too sensitive. What't could possibly be wrong with a white lawmaker calling a black person trying to help her get elected "Buckwheat"? Coloreds put too much pressure on good white people! Ladies and Gentlemen state lawmaker Carla Blanchard Partez of or near Houma, "LooseAna" called an elderly black lady, 75 years of age, who was driving people to the poll to vote for Partez Buckwheat. She responded to the help by saying "thank you Buckwheat", an endearing term she thought no doubt. Representative Partez is a Democrat and for all these white people who don't think blacks will vote for a republican, please stand by and watch us vote a republican by nearly a 100% voting percentage.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-13T10:15:16-06:00

ID

115600

Comment

Besides, whether we coloreds are called buckwheat, shine, the n-word, boy, angie mama, girl or whatever good whites choose to call us, we know they're talking to us, so we should just go on without complaining, because racism is a thing of the dead and discared past.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-13T10:26:00-06:00

ID

115601

Comment

I meant discarded!

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-13T10:26:46-06:00

ID

115602

Comment

Can't I just call you "friend," Ray? ;-)

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2007-11-13T10:31:43-06:00

ID

115603

Comment

You can, but it's not required, and it shouldn't be. Smile.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2007-11-13T10:38:01-06:00