The national news media is not really covering this story, but at the recent Texas GOP convention a vendor sold racist buttons with the quote "If Obama wins, will it still be called the "White House?"
This is also an indication of why minorities don't go to the GOP - after all, the vendor had to pay $1500 to be a vendor, so he obviously expected to sell enough of those racist buttons to cover his expenses!
What do you think?
Its also important to know that the Texas GOP has cut off the vendor and apologized.
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What's this?Within the story: "I'm not crazy," Alcox said. "Why would I go out there and purposely put a button out there that's going to offend people?" Because you're crazy. And.... Alcox said he could yet vote for Obama over U.S. Sen. John McCain, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee. "I haven't made up my mind," he said. Reminds of me of the "Some of my best friends are black" card some people play whenever they find themselves caught saying offensive statements about black people.
- golden eagle
- Jun 20 2008
In case there is any doubt, we're definitely painting that mother black or brown. It has been white too long and for no good reason! I think I'll call it "The House That Truly Reflects."
- Walt
- Jun 20 2008
How about leaving it white but painting the window frames and doorways blue to keep out the ghosts?
- Rico
- Jun 20 2008
Sounds nice Rico, but wouldn't your idea leave too much white and non-change?
- Walt
- Jun 20 2008
Just as long as we can have fried chicken and watermelon for state dinners (I am African American and this is a joke!)
- FreeClif
- Jun 20 2008
I have never laughed so often in my life as this year. McCain says I NEVER LOVED AMERICA: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/19/watch-mccain-didnt-love-a_n_108191.html
- FreeClif
- Jun 20 2008
I saw a picture of the button a few days ago, and I didn't want to talk about it or deal with it because I was afraid that I would get angrier than I already was. Lately, I've found myself dealing with a lot of the issues related to the campaign that way. It's been almost 1 1/2 years, and we still have five months to go, so I'm trying to take it easy and keep my cool. I've been trying to limit how much political news I read or watch in order to keep my sanity because this campaign has been incredibly nasty. [img]http://rdr.zazzle.com/img/imt-prd/isz-m/pd-235556909898574208/tl-campaign_2008_is_it_over_yet_shirt.jpg[/img]
- LatashaWillis
- Jun 20 2008
My first thought on that one was "Duh! Of course, it's painted white." Then I figured out this throwback was trying to be funny. Oy.
- Ironghost
- Jun 21 2008
Just as long as we can have fried chicken and watermelon for state dinners (I am African American and this is a joke!) Yes...and a basketball court installed on the front lawn, rap music blasting from the back patio, and all the Presidential limos tricked out with 22" wheels, gold-plated rims and neon lights underneath. I guess these are a few of the things some white folks are expecting to see happen if the White House goes black.
- Jeff Lucas
- Jun 22 2008
"McCain says I NEVER LOVED AMERICA..." Wrong. The exact quote was "I really didn't love America until I was deprived of her company." That's not saying he never loved America. It's more like saying "I never appreciated having a house and money to pay bills until I was unemployed and homeless" or "I never appreciated how good my marriage really was until we got separated". I read it to mean that he took America's freedoms for granted, like many of us do, until he was deprived of them for years as a P.O.W. This is partially why I dislike Dan Abrams. I know what he was trying to say, that the shots taken at Michelle's words were unwarranted and overblown (I agree, since she never said she didn't love America either) but you can't equate these two statements. I'm more in the mindset of what Kaze said a few weeks ago, that we should rise above the petty attacks on the candidates and their spouses, and concentrate on the issues.
- Jeff Lucas
- Jun 23 2008
You are wrong Jeff; there is more than one quote. There is another quote I saw and heard where he did say I "never loved America" ... blah blah blah..."until I was deprived of her company". It IS the same thing they are trying to demonize MO for. Most objective people can see that. They are both being taken out of context. If you can't see it, at least a nice Republican lady like Laura Bush gets it. In both cases it is wrong.
- FreeClif
- Jun 23 2008
When I can find him quoted as actually using those words, and the full context, I'll concede the point. If you see them, please provide a link. But in the broader sense we actually agree as to how statements can be taken out of context, ala Michelle Obama's comment and your phrasing of McCain's comment. Michelle didn't say anything bad. The dust up over Michelle's comment was a smokescreen to call her (and by extension Barack) unpatriotic and create a smear campaign around her.
- Jeff Lucas
- Jun 23 2008
He said he "did not love America..."...he didn't say "never". Whether I did not love you or I never loved you. You are still unloved (lol). We do agree. I think everyone except wingnuts (right or left) would agree that it is most likely that both Michelle and McCain love their country.
- FreeClif
- Jun 23 2008
Never mind. Found his MSNBC webcast. http://www.electiongeek.com/blog/2008/06/20/mccain-i-didnt-love-america/
- Jeff Lucas
- Jun 23 2008
Yep. And as I've said elsewhere, I think I understand exactly what Michelle was saying, and to some extent why she would use those words in expressing it. Once she started speaking on the campaign trail her words were open to scrutiny. But it was disgusting the way she was demonized as someone who "hates" America, which is not what she said but what other people "heard".
- Jeff Lucas
- Jun 23 2008
The right wingnuts are not objective as evidenced by the wingnut who saw a "terrorist fist jab". We all know she just made that up because the terrorists probably heard that and wondered "what she mean, terrorist fist what? Maybe she means our terrorist friend Punjab".
- FreeClif
- Jun 23 2008
This editorial is on target: http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2008/06/25/rebranding_michelle_obama?mode=PF.
- FreeClif
- Jun 25 2008
Is this issue over yet? Not with the Fresh Prince himself now admitting it's been tough to be american overseas.
- Ironghost
- Jun 25 2008
It's tough being an American in America with no good republicans having screwed up everythang here and abroad.
- Walt
- Jun 25 2008
See, what I hate is that we in the USA are pretty much being bullied into picking the worst possible choice for President. The World wants us to pick someone who more closely resembles Jimmy Carter rather than a more successful democrat.
- Ironghost
- Jun 25 2008
Could the world be right? We could use a Jimmy Carter right now, if you asked me. Obama is not no where near the worse. We already have the "worse" that's possible in President Bush, the guy you voted for twice, Iron. Just remember nothing is worse than Bush, Cheney and Rove.
- Walt
- Jun 25 2008
Ironghost must live in Zimbabwe where if you support the opposition candidate the come to your house beat you, burn your house down and eat your cat. Who is picking on you?
- FreeClif
- Jun 25 2008
Just vote for Mugabe then.
- FreeClif
- Jun 25 2008
Walt, you have no idea who I voted for. So hush. Whitley: Are you okay? This is America, not Zimbabwe.
- Ironghost
- Jun 25 2008
You certainly did vote for him twice. I googled your record at the voting place. Be a proud republican ,Iron, like most are who are intent on destroying the goodwill of America, and fattening the pockets of corporations and other republicans, while screwing the rest of the country and world simultaneously. A double mind is a a foolish thing.
- Walt
- Jun 25 2008
The Internets are all over the world. You could be a Rhodesian. You said people are being "bullied" to vote for someone. I don't know of any voter "bullying" here. It is going on in Zimbabwe. Maybe you're writing from China?
- FreeClif
- Jun 25 2008
Iron is good people, Whitley. He's somewhere in America praying with other republicans that a terrorist group does something soon to Americans so the republican party can go on a killing spree and get 4 more years on the premise they are hard on terrorists. I see no credible evidence that they're stopping terrorists, but I'm convinced their policies, here and abroad, are creating terrorists against us.
- Walt
- Jun 25 2008
That is the wonder of the Internets. You could be anywhere. You might be a Cuban peasant where the neighbors reportedly spy on you and tell the authorities if you harbor "counter-revolutionary" tendencies. An analogy might be like the current Justice Department would not hire lawyers at the top of their classes if they were suspected liberals (in violation the law).
- FreeClif
- Jun 25 2008
OK I have attempted to avoid political discussion on this site for a while now, but Walt, you continue to amaze me with your hate-spewing vitriol. Republicans praying that a terrorist group does something soon so the Party can go on a killing spree? Really? I guess the terrorists' attack doesn't count as a killing spree. And that statement is just so ludicrious and horrible that once again you show yourself to be nothing more than a hate-filled lunatic.
- QB
- Jun 25 2008
Thanks Harry for your wonderful opinion of me. I know you love me and didn't you mean to say "lunatic fringe" and point backward to you and your party? I don't care what you do or say, but blame yourself for what you say, not me. I don't know anything about republicans worth liking or not hating at this point. Incidents or alleged incidents of terror have been used before to advance political agenda by your party. I don't put anything past you or your party. I'm in too good a mood today to stoop to your level. Have a good day and please remember my moods aren't always good and I do believe in stone for stone when necessary. Thanks for your commentary, Fat Harry. While I rarely gain any insight or truth from it, it does make me laugh frequently and it inspires me to keep writing. High fives to your friends. You told me off. He, he.
- Walt
- Jun 25 2008
Anytime, Walt. Here to help.
- QB
- Jun 25 2008
You guys are crazy. I start to take offense when people start not only attacking, but disrespecting my husband. How the h*ll would you know what kind of Republican - or American - he is? He and I have differing points of view, but we respect each other's opinions. Maybe you should learn to do the same.
- Lady Havoc
- Jun 25 2008
We were just having fun with Iron. We didn't cry foul when people attacked us unjustly for years. I guess it's the "just" attacks on republicans they can't handle. I'm sorry, but I can't make up anything worse or that is better evidnce of a party gone wild or foul than the true facts about republicans. Otherwise, I would make up stuff like the republicans did and still do about us. I didn't even get mad when Harry, probably not a republican either if you let him tell it, called me a lunatic. I happen to know what a lunatic is, and know I'm not one, and know who indeed is one. Republicans berated us Democrats for years with bullcrap and make-believe, and I personally fought back with facts. I don't recall getting mad or crying the blues. I apologize to Lady if she thought I was personally and inappropriately attacking her husband, but not Iron as all is fair between us, and we were discussing politics, a dirty game often requiring dirty tactics to win.
- Walt
- Jun 25 2008
It was however unfair and wrong of me to suggest "all" republicans were prayerful or wishful of a catasrophe to lead them to another victory. Clearly, it's not all. Some are atheists and will not pray.
- Walt
- Jun 25 2008
I like Laura Bush, but I am not sure if she is actually a Republican. Colin Powell seems like a decent guy. I wonder if his mom told him about hanging around people who get him in trouble?
- FreeClif
- Jun 25 2008
If his mother did, he didn't listen. That's too bad too because Dumbbo, Killer and Chucky sho nuff destroyed his good reputation and career. I knew he wouldn't be around the second term. No decent person could tolerate those jokers. This is how I know Condo is a nutjob.
- Walt
- Jun 25 2008
Oh, Condi is another decent Republican. I would have a beer or glass or wine after the opera (or whatever she does for entertainment) with her, but I would not vote for her. She is likeable enough. I don't get too mad with her. She digs W. Some ladies are pushovers for the rascally types.
- FreeClif
- Jun 25 2008
My apologies. I don't mind if you attack Repubs in general: but I can promise you he's not a typical textbook one. And I'm a bad mama bear: the claws come out on any perceived threat. :)
- Lady Havoc
- Jun 25 2008
Whitley, how can she be decent and lie the way she did before congress for George and team? She does kind of have that look that makes you want to know her better, and I don't drank coffe, if you know what I mean. Don't you wonder about anyone who can dig George the 2nd. They have very low standards. Decent and republican! I just can't see how the two word could ever get together for anything. And believe me they haven't been together in 40 years or more.
- Walt
- Jun 25 2008
Frankly, Lady once I found out you were married to Iron, he went up several notches in my opinion. People who know my wife assume I'm outstanding (nice, kind, generous and fair) too, by extrapolation.
- Walt
- Jun 25 2008
Condi has very decent legs and I hear she plays a mean piano. She said she like BO's race speech and that slavery and racism were the "birth defects of this country". You can't let dislike of Republicans blind you to their virtues.
- FreeClif
- Jun 25 2008
Who said I don't like republicans. I like Mr. Lancoln, General Grant, all the abolitionists who were republicans and others I can't recall right now. I even have a bust of Mr. Lancoln in my office at home although I know he's not what history claims he was. Whitley, do you mean to tell me that I have given the impression I don't like republicans? I'm shocked and certainly am unaware I have given said false impression. I even saw one shot of Katherine Harris on Nightline that made me like her momentarily. I don't like the Trickiecrats - old time Dixiecrat Democrats who became so-called republicans once the Democratic party became too democratic, but have failed to comply with republican foundational principles.
- Walt
- Jun 25 2008
What virtues? I must be blind if this exists.
- Walt
- Jun 25 2008
They love America more than Rev. Wright. Some of them wear flag pins.
- FreeClif
- Jun 25 2008
The love is so clear by how much of America they have made deals with corporations or the wealthy to buy up, steal, drill for oil/gas on or simply take or hide for later nefarious use. If we don't get them out of office soon there won't likely be much of America they haven't sold to the rich or personally purchased thereby creating another reservation. And it won't small or merely Native Americans or Indians this time, but peasants of all hues and poor walks of life.
- Walt
- Jun 25 2008
You poor people. You haven't a shred of evidence that Obama is any better than Bush or Carter. Nothing. All you've done is paint him with your hopes and dreams, and hope the color sticks. Good Luck.
- Ironghost
- Jun 25 2008
okay obama may be everything they say iron...we agree
- skipp
- Jun 25 2008
it is disappointing when you read through an entire forum thinking that it might go somewhere and all that is to be found is conversational drivel; a static exchange of hyperbole and rhetorical "wit", caricatured for an imaginary audience, and lending no advance of thought to this most interesting political cycle. See - now i've done it.
- daniel johnson
- Jun 25 2008
A sign of how pathetic the wingnuts are is that they are trying to resurrect the presidencey of Jimmy Carter from thirty years ago. He has been a great ex-President. History will be kind to him. I doubt few could exceed the depths of Dubya. Most reasonable people in America at least agree on that.
- FreeClif
- Jun 26 2008
DJ, the key is moderation. Too much leads to disappointment every time. Too little and you become a member of a certain party that is mired in a parody called "Back to the Past". They want to go back to the "good ole days" of gun boat diplomacy and envision scenes like, "Get out of my oil patch by sundown" and where someone with a flag pin on their cowboy hat rides in to the rescue at the last possible moment.
- FreeClif
- Jun 26 2008
I don't see how anybody who voted for Bush, once or twice, can question Obama's abilities to be president. Carter carried Mississippi. If Carter was so bad what does it say about Mississippians who then voted for Reagan and the Bushes. The Prophet Jessie Jackson warned us to stay out the Bushes.
- Walt
- Jun 26 2008
What's up with Ralph Nadar accusing Barack of talking white and appealing to white guilt? He had better start breaking a few verbs. Also several news services or watchdog groups are reporting that membership in hate groups is increasing now that Barack is poised to be president. I'm shocked bcause I beleieved as republicans said that racism is a thing of the past. I'll bet my last dollar that 99% of those hate group members aren't Democrats.
- Walt
- Jun 26 2008
Walt, could you tell me where you got that info? I think we need a link.
- LatashaWillis
- Jun 26 2008
Got to BlackAmericaWeb for the info about hate groups increase. The Nadar stuff is everywhere. Maybe one day I'll become smart enough to link articles. I'm old and scared of compooters.
- Walt
- Jun 26 2008
You can find my hometown by searching here: http://www.splcenter.org/intel/hatewatch/fortherecord/jsp
- willdufauve
- Jun 26 2008
Ralph Nader link "There's only one thing different about Barack Obama when it comes to being a Democratic presidential candidate. He's half African-American," Nader said. "Whether that will make any difference, I don't know. I haven't heard him have a strong crackdown on economic exploitation in the ghettos. Payday loans, predatory lending, asbestos, lead. What's keeping him from doing that? Is it because he wants to talk white? He doesn't want to appear like Jesse Jackson?" When asked if Obama does try to "talk white," Nader replied, "Of course." He also said that Obama doesn't want to appear to be "another politically threatening African-American politician." "He wants to appeal to white guilt," Nader said. "You appeal to white guilt not by coming on as black is beautiful, black is powerful. Basically he's coming on as someone who is not going to threaten the white power structure, whether it's corporate or whether it's simply oligarchic. And they love it. Whites just eat it up." Hate groups link Since Obama defeated Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary last month, clinched the Democratic presidential nomination and could become America's first black president in November, racist groups, white supremacy organizations, neo-nazis and skinheads have all increased their activity on the Internet and stepped up their hateful online denunciations of Obama. It's a hate experts say is now reaching a fever pitch. "I haven't seen this much anger in a long, long time," Billy Roper, a 36-year-old who runs a group called White Revolution in Russellville, Arkansas, told The Washington Post. "Nothing has awakened normally complacent white Americans more than the prospect of America having an overtly non-white president."
- LatashaWillis
- Jun 26 2008
will, where's your hometown?
- LatashaWillis
- Jun 26 2008
More on the hate groups: The resurgence of hate groups comes as a new poll by The Washington Post-ABC News shows that nearly half of all Americans say race relations in the country are in bad shape and three in 10 acknowledge feelings of racial prejudice. "Many think Obama has the potential to transform current racial politics. Nearly six in 10 believe his candidacy will shake up the racial status quo, for better or worse. And by nearly three to one, those who think Obama's candidacy will affect race relations said it will have a positive impact," the newspaper reported. "African-Americans are much more optimistic than whites on this score: Sixty percent said Obama's candidacy will do more to help race relations, compared with 38 percent of whites. Two-thirds of those supporting him for president think it will improve the situation," the poll showed. "For black voters," Kirby said, " it allows us to take a good look at how far we have come -- and how far we yet have to travel."
- LatashaWillis
- Jun 26 2008
Glad to see what Nader actually said. He might be right. Clearly white America isn't ready for some kinds of black males or leaders. Obama certainly is walking thru the maze I always said he had to in order to have a chance at becoming president. He's no dummy. White America isn't ready for Skipp or me as president, and I doubt they will ever get ready for us. Should I ever run I'll have the secret service to look for 2 guys posting here first as I would expect them to be the first two of many to take shots at me, both verbal and actual or pistol-wise.
- Walt
- Jun 26 2008
On NPR, I heard a old sounding white dude in Unity, New Hampshire (Where Hill and Barack are to campaign together today) saying of Barack, "He is a good speaker. He speaks like Martin Luther King. He rants like a negro and I don't like that." Dave Chappelle could've written those lines for him. This campaign is a hoot as long as they don't get violent (lol). There is proof everywhere that Mississippi has no monopoly on idiot wingnuts.
- FreeClif
- Jun 26 2008
You see, Whitley, I think the fellow is simply saying he prefers blacks or African-Americans, the stronger version of the old negro. He may not be dissing negroes, african-americans or blacks generally or purposely. Imus has taught me that words can have dual or other meanings. Can some of our white friends on here tell us what you prefer us to sound like. If Barack, smart, black, white, mixed, articilate, confident, well-educated, good at writing, arithematic and talking; isn't good enough to please the judicious, discerning and perfecting taste of white America then I guess we need to run Alan "Super Tom" Keyes the next time.
- Walt
- Jun 26 2008
On NPR, I heard a old sounding white dude in Unity, New Hampshire saying of Barack, "He is a good speaker. He speaks like Martin Luther King. He rants like a negro and I don't like that." - Whitley Whitley, New Hampshire is...well...in all of recorded history only three black people have ever lived in New Hampshire...my uncle Bob, one anonymous, and the third is the overnight guest in my house tonight. ------------------------------------------------- "Can some of our white friends on here tell us what you prefer us to sound like." - Walt Walt, it's important to keep in mind that many (but not all) white people, like many purebreds, are high strung, nervous and easily frightened types. They (but not all) tend to be allergic to the color brown. Being white means being right, and never having to say you're sorry. So they prefer that you make like the sound of one hand clapping. Not trying to be controversial or offend anyone, just hoping to educate and inform.
- willdufauve
- Jun 27 2008
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