Jackson Free Press

YOUR NEW WORD FOR TODAY IS: PROJACK! pro-jak n. 1.To be pro jackson. Champion of all the good things your city has to offer. 2. To hold your city down, be knowledgable of all new development & a registered voter in tune with city politics. Are you a PROJACK?

If so, add this your vocabulary, jackpedia and wiki pages. Use it in general conversation. Let's all be PROJACKS!!!

Previous Comments

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145261

Comment

LOVE it, Kaze! Meantime, these are the top headlines right now on the Ledger: More Headlines * 16 arrested in alleged Pike cockfighting ring - 9:24 am * 2 Byhalia residents killed in DeSoto crash - 9:18 am * 2 slain at Saints player's apartment - 9:15 am * Horn Lake man dies in house fire - 9:08 am * Burned body identified in Bolivar County - 8:56 am * Clarksdale man charged in fatal shooting - 8:19 am Really, NO good news whatsoever!?!

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2009-03-31T09:17:13-06:00

ID

145265

Comment

Yeah. you would think MS is in the midst of a war or something *sigh* smh. Nothing but death and impending doom! *sigh* smh. Suits at CL, DEFINITELY not PROJACKS!

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-03-31T09:35:26-06:00

ID

145273

Comment

I am Projack--I love Jackson and I love to listen to Jack!

Author

golden eagle

Date

2009-03-31T12:04:40-06:00

ID

145276

Comment

Baquan, what are you talking about? Have you asked to do something regular?? E-mail me. I'm looking for bloggers -- under your real name and photo, though. ;-) Yep, Stax should do them. Or Chane. Or somebody. Great idea.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2009-03-31T12:44:05-06:00

ID

145277

Comment

You're so right Kaze. I gotta get over my NoJack attitude. Although it's hard not to get frustrated at times.

Author

WMartin

Date

2009-03-31T12:44:27-06:00

ID

145279

Comment

I'm not a big fan of people posting about politics and local issues, or certainly other people, under pseudonyms. So I'll probably have to pass, and let you keep posting here on the site. Sorry.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2009-03-31T12:57:31-06:00

ID

145280

Comment

WMartin, I think the key is not to allow a few fools to have too much power or to speak for the entire city. In recent years, determined Jacksonians of all sorts have come together to do positive things, and push back against the negative media coverage and attacks from the suburbs. As a result, the city is getting stronger regardless of its poor leadership. And hopefully that's only a matter of time. So, join us on the ProJack bandwagon! It doesn't mean we never criticize, but that it's about being constructive, not destructive, and not falling for silly demagoguery. It's an important shift.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2009-03-31T12:59:54-06:00

ID

145284

Comment

I agree with that, Baquan. The problem with the sensationalistic approach to crime, for instance, is that the media themselves don't do the homework about real solutions are, with editors like Ronnie Agnew spouting things like "crime is the No. 1 issue!" and journalists and columnists twisting very real warnings about what the perception that crime is out of control does to a community (making it harder to lesson crime). That is reporting crime just to get people hysterical and to pick up the paper. The irony, of course, is that after all these years of crime sensationalism, people are now rejecting the Ledger etc. due to pitiful, superficial reporting. Chickens do roost, eventually.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2009-03-31T13:25:31-06:00

ID

145289

Comment

T-shirts is a boss idea! We should do em..Ill help spring for some, do I have any business partners here? JFP maybe? we could hand out a few. I will almost bet they'll catch on. You'll be surprised how small movements like this shape big ones...Ive seen it happen Im A PROJACK! or are YOU a PROJACK?. or just PROJACK...with the defintion on the back..hmmmmmm? Im in the music biz folks so the name's been copyrighted LMAO.

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-03-31T13:51:30-06:00

ID

145290

Comment

I'd buy one. Those of us in the suburbs need to show we're behind Jackson. If Jackson goes down, we all go down.

Author

Lady Havoc

Date

2009-03-31T13:56:57-06:00

ID

145292

Comment

I love the t-shirt idea. I think the t-shirt should have PROJACK on the front and the dictionary definition on the back. I also wish we had a welcome wagon, a pack of information to welcome people who move to the area. Back home it was organizational, service, and festival information, but also a t-shirt, coupons for local restaurants, and a newspaper. Nice way to get orientated when you move to a new place.

Author

Sareta Y.

Date

2009-03-31T14:04:27-06:00

ID

145293

Comment

Kaze, why don't you touch base with Kimberly about it? I know we've been talking about doing new shirts, so maybe we can tie it all together. Oh, and I'm with you. I've seen what one tiny little newspaper can do. ;-) And thanks, Lady. That's the attitude. I can tell you this, too: If more people in the 'burbs expressed that attitude, we city folk wouldn't be so defensive! The city has been so beaten down that we've had to fight to pick the old girl up. But it's working!

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2009-03-31T14:05:55-06:00

ID

145296

Comment

@Lady Havoc: I seriously doubt Pearl, Brandon, Richland, Flowood, Ridgeland or Madison would go "down" if Jackson somehow mysteriously disappeared off of the map, much less if Jackson went "down".

Author

LambdaRisen

Date

2009-03-31T14:13:20-06:00

ID

145302

Comment

Lambda...it actually would. That theory only works for donuts. The surrounding communities could not survive an implosion of the capital city. Ironically there are folsk surrounding us that share your sentiment. it just defies logic. The great majority of those citizens work in Jackson. Their communities simply are not equipped to handle a workforce like we do. A good number of the cities you mention have people who work and draw paychecks HERE and spend that money shopping, eating, going to movies, and paying taxes THERE. We never see a dime of it. Jackson isnt going down. far from it. In fact, with current development going at this pace and the growing number of folks expressing a desire to push a positive Jackson, I believe we are going to expand

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-03-31T14:39:02-06:00

ID

145304

Comment

Regarding the 'burbs- how is it that some (most) of them can elect mayors that actually have a clue? I don't think Jackson has had a decent one since Dale Danks. It seems that every election cycle gets worse for the city. Jackson could use a Gene McGee.

Author

bill_jackson

Date

2009-03-31T15:00:59-06:00

ID

145306

Comment

3 reasons, Our daily newspaper not being able to "afford" to do real reporting. Balanced reporting 2. WJTV. Never show up to any press conferences or events that are positive. Never. Ever. They are consistently absent. 3. These blogs that propogate rumor, innuendo, and platforms to launch personal unsubstantiated attacks. Jackson has become a town that easily falls prey to perception. We have been so wounded that there came a time when the public would believe anything they read, saw on TV, or read on a blog. That is how we have gotten where we are. But now we have people really questioning candidates. Folks calling out shoddy reporting. Embarassing tv stations. Calling out internet thugs who never have real factual info to back up their sensationalism. Times are changing. I hear Gene McGee is a good guy. IMO his neighbor isn't. Just there to perpetuate a stepford lifestyle. It is what it is. We have to call folks out where they stand

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-03-31T15:17:14-06:00

ID

145307

Comment

I assume you're referring to his neighbor to the north. Not a big fan of hers (my GF lives there) but I must say she has been effective in keeping the town on course for what they want it to be.

Author

bill_jackson

Date

2009-03-31T15:22:03-06:00

ID

145308

Comment

I guess. My question is: what do they want it to be? and why do they think its so different than what Jacksonians want? Because clearly the message has been "fed up with over THERE? Then come live over HERE, its better!"

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-03-31T15:33:42-06:00

ID

145309

Comment

Well, for one thing, they've got effective leadership (from what I've seen). The kids can play outside and not hear gunfire. I don't think demonizing people who prefer to live in Madison (or Brandon or wherever) is going to do anything to improve Jackson. If Jackson wants to improve it's image, it's got to start with it's citizens. And come to think about it, what exactly is so bad about choosing to live in Madison or Rankin County?

Author

bill_jackson

Date

2009-03-31T15:40:11-06:00

ID

145313

Comment

The kids can play outside and not hear gunfire. Funny, I live off Northside Drive and I see kids playing outside all the time and I don't hear gunshots.

Author

golden eagle

Date

2009-03-31T15:51:08-06:00

ID

145314

Comment

Just keep going west on N'side, then...

Author

bill_jackson

Date

2009-03-31T15:56:12-06:00

ID

145318

Comment

I like it Kaze. On here, I may talk trash about Jackson, but it's only because I care and I know you all care. When I'm talking to people who don't live here, I talk Jackson up big-time and talk about how it truly is the up-and-coming city of the South. It's on all of us to change perceptions.

Author

QB

Date

2009-03-31T16:06:39-06:00

ID

145319

Comment

Yeah, I think there are plenty of guns in the suburbs, just as in the city. In fact, the worst school shootings in our history happened in the 'burbs. So that's a non sequiter. Nice posts, Kaze. You're on a fabulous roll here. Keep it up! Love this part, because it's so true that Jacksonians are getting more sophisticated about asking questions and quesitoning rumors by "Internet thugs" and others: That is how we have gotten where we are. But now we have people really questioning candidates. Folks calling out shoddy reporting. Embarassing tv stations. Calling out internet thugs who never have real factual info to back up their sensationalism. Times are changing. I hear Gene McGee is a good guy. IMO his neighbor isn't. Just there to perpetuate a stepford lifestyle. It is what it is. We have to call folks out where they stand

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2009-03-31T16:10:12-06:00

ID

145320

Comment

And thanks for your comments, too, Fat Harry.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2009-03-31T16:12:08-06:00

ID

145321

Comment

Rex. That's the point. Most Jacksonians on ALL sides of the city live and play without hearing gunfire. I grew up in North Jackson. Never heard gunfire. Lived off Prentiss In West Jackson. Never heard gunfire. Now live in Fondren. Never hear gunfire. It simply is not the common occurance that most suburbanites think it is. Most suburbanites have NEVER lived in Jackson. But believe they know what Jackson is like because they watch the news or read the CL which horribly skews the truth. Most Jacksonians have grown up not experiencing the wild west lifestyle that most folks outside of here feel we live. Try living here yourself and see. Many have had ONE bad experience and moved. Crime is a random occurance that can happen anywhere. Apparently folks in Madison feel they are shielded to it. Jackson is a capital city, a growing metropolis that will have big city problems. Do you think Birmingham, Dallas, Orlando, or Nashville don't have crime? Do you think that folks in the burbs of those cities say that you can't live in Birmingham without hearing gunshots lol. Its a laughable premise. Folks can live where they wish. But when you move because of propoganda then it hurts our states core. You find a cheaper house. Cool. Find a bigger house because of a growing family. Cool. Want a pool. Cool. But because the CL bloggers say that you'll get murdered if go downtown Jackson. Or WJTV leads with a murder or because someone broke into someones house you know ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN..then no that works against all of us

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-03-31T16:17:09-06:00

ID

145323

Comment

Kaze check you email when you get a chance I sent you something.

Author

BubbaT

Date

2009-03-31T16:26:55-06:00

ID

145327

Comment

I do believe the suburbs would suffer if Jackson suffered. Where do we go to take our kids out? Jackson. The Zoo, the Science Museum, the Planetarium, the upcoming Children's Museum, the many historical sites that Jackson has to offer - we can't find those in my town. Jackson is a historical and cultural cornucopia. Where do we go for dinner? Once again, Jackson. Heck, even the chains have better food in Jackson than elsewhere. And you can't find a Sal and Mookie's, Walker's Drive-in, or anything like that. I feel perfectly safe walking down any Jackson street. I have never had a problem when I've been in Jackson alone. I have never felt any danger at Metrocenter or anywhere in the 80/18 corridor. People may move out to the suburbs, but where do most of them work? Once again, Jackson. All the state government jobs are located there. I've seen the traffic flow going back and forth: in the mornings, there is 2 to 3 times more traffic going towards Jackson than out. Reverse that in the evening. That says something right there. We need Jackson to stay strong, stay healthy, and grow.

Author

Lady Havoc

Date

2009-03-31T16:56:25-06:00

ID

145329

Comment

You're right. It's not just the issue of where you go out, Lady. Bedroom communities, by their definition and existence, rely on the city where many of them work for their survival. Building an upscale shopping mall and some office buildings does not detract from the fact that the suburbs rely on the health-care industry and government-related jobs in Jackson for much of its livelihood.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2009-03-31T17:03:10-06:00

ID

145330

Comment

And as far as suburban mayors go: ask some Clintonians what they think of Rosemary Aultman. We have some really stupid Gestapo laws over here: like the garbage cans have to be in within 24 hours of the garbage running: the garage door can only be open so long: heck, they'll happily cite you if you don't cut the grass when they think it should be cut. And Clinton Public Schools sending policemen out to your home to verify you live there if, by one reason or another, you enroll your children under an affidavit? CPS has a place on their website where you can report out of district students. The school system may be good, but that's carrying things way too far, IMHO. The burbs aren't perfect. Nowhere near perfect. No place is.

Author

Lady Havoc

Date

2009-03-31T17:03:15-06:00

ID

145332

Comment

Kaze, I love the PROJACK concept. Tee shirts--super! Really like the name on the front and the definition on the back. I forwarded your PROJACK email today to lots of folks. The emails started criss-crossing cause I got a forward back from a person I had forwarded it to. Great blog!!! Interestingly, I walked at Parham Bridges Sunday afternoon and as I made my way through so many vehicles to get a parking place--the sun out and so many folks enjoying the tennis courts and the walking trail--I chuckled at how many of the tags were Madison County tags. I want a tee shirt. Tell me where to buy it and how much folding green to bring.

Author

J.T.

Date

2009-03-31T17:37:42-06:00

ID

145344

Comment

Kaze- I grew up in N Jxn, off Hanging Moss, from 63-88. My ex wife and I lived in the Colonial Heights area until '01. At that time I moved to Ridgeland and I have to say that it's where I call home now. I don't favor draconian ordinances like the ones in Clinton mentioned above, but that goes back to the "broken window" concept. I hope that Jackson can be all that it has the potential to be, it's where I was born. My initial comments were meant to suggest that maybe Jackson could look to some of the things a few of the 'burbs were doing right to better itself. And IMHO, Ridgeland is the best of the lot.

Author

bill_jackson

Date

2009-03-31T19:47:01-06:00

ID

145348

Comment

I feel ya Rex. But In an objective sense, what are some of things that we could adopt that have worked for the suburbs. Or in Ridgeland as you see it.

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-03-31T20:40:21-06:00

ID

145350

Comment

From what I hear from business owners (mostly small business) is that Jackson is known as being not so easy to deal with, for a business permit and start-up help. And what Mayor McGee has done here with the bike paths and other infrastrucure should be a model.

Author

bill_jackson

Date

2009-03-31T20:53:05-06:00

ID

145358

Comment

I love the idea of Projack- I hate that some feel that suburb bashing is a way to show their love for Jackson. What is wrong with simply being pro-Jackson without being anti-anything? Oh yeah, before I'm accused of being a one trick pony again, please note that I have held my tongue on this topic for a very long time...

Author

Rico

Date

2009-03-31T23:49:41-06:00

ID

145363

Comment

I agree Rex. Jackson has traditionally not given folks the feeling that it was "open for business" That feeling was furthered once this administration took over and the light was further shined on the lazy, incompetent, or rude (take your pick), folks that work in those offices. There is no accountability and folks are there just to get checks. So I will agree with you there. Governmental structure and just plain old leadership play a part. I also agree with You baquan re: holding businesses to a standard. But I don't agree with stepford type tactics that force businesses to do things a certain way. Business owners should be able to do what they wish. Homeowners should be able to do what they wish. Hell, they pay notes on their property. Outside of heavy loitering, excessive trash, and keeping a yard cut, I shouldn't hear from you. If I have a car that isn't working and prefer to change the oil or the brakes myself, I should be able to do it WHEN I want to do it. If I own my home, I should be able to rent to who the hell I want to. I PAID FOR IT! That burns me up. Clearly speaks to an elitist,"we don't want a certain kind of person" mentality

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-01T07:12:04-06:00

ID

145367

Comment

Rico, nothing is wrong with being "pro" anything. And no one is suggesting to be "anti" anything. There won't be any I hate Madison campaigns. We've got better things to do. However do you deny that there has been a systematic constant subtle "we're better than Jackson" undertone to what the Madison mayor has been doing? Being in direct competition with Jackson for new business. Actively campaigning to woo Jackson business to Madison. If I wanted to go for the jugular and really be outright inflammatory I could say the mayor institutes covenants and ordinances that are designed to keep as many Black people out of Madison as they can. No apartments within the city limits, homeowners can't rent their homes out in certain areas, no cars in the yards etc. Those ridiculous brick gas stations lol. Makes me wonder if there will soon be a no-bbq, no spades playing or a 2.5 children per household ordinance passed soon. And of course I'm overexaggerating but cmon. Where does it stop. How long will Jackson continue to take the bashing before we fight back. You say we shouldn't be "anti" how about you go to some of your neighbors who bash Jackson and ask them why THEY are "anti". Jackson is simply now fed up and starting to react. A lot of it is aimed at US because we have a lot of work to do. Like first find out how everyone in a position to DO something is scared of our mayor. Then I'd like to know why everyone there is scared of your mayor. Because the atmosphere is being created that makes it look as if Madison wants to be an island. Mark my words the tide will quickly turn later this year when K.E. And Farish come online to compliment the Convention Center.

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-01T07:50:59-06:00

ID

145368

Comment

Kamikaze, one only needs to read this thread to see a *lot* of 'burb bashing. Jackson people are every bit as guilty of looking down on the outlying areas as the suburbanites are about looking down on Jackson. We've beaten that horse enough, haven't we? I'm just thinking that maybe you guys should lead by example and prove that you are better than that. Leave the bashing out and just be positive- Jackson does have a lot to offer, and I agree that it will soon have much more to offer. As an aside to this, do you guys realize that every time we in the suburbs see the "buy local" stuff on here and elsewhere, we get the message- and "buying local" for us means buying in Ridgeland or Madison or Brandon or Pearl or Byram, or Clinton... Why not a "Buy Jackson" campaign instead?

Author

Rico

Date

2009-04-01T08:17:35-06:00

ID

145376

Comment

That fits me as well. Every since I moved into the city limits of Jackson right after Christmas, I've done very little business outside the city. I was at the new DSW store out at Dogwood the other day and while they did have good shoes at reasonable prices, me buying shoes there does nothing to fix Jackson streets, pay Jackson police officers, fix Jackson water pipes, etc. It helps Flowood function as a city, but not Jackson. If I want to see a movie or go to a Braves game, I have no choice but to go outside the city, but most everything else in Jackson when all possible. BTW, Rico, I have seen "Buy Jackson" billboards and there is an organization or two that encourages people to do so. Also, I don't wanna engage in bashing the suburbs, but whenever people bash my city, I'm going to defend her.

Author

golden eagle

Date

2009-04-01T09:25:08-06:00

ID

145377

Comment

FYI the Jackson Progressive tshirts already read I AM PROJACK!!!!

Author

Queen601

Date

2009-04-01T09:35:06-06:00

ID

145380

Comment

We may have moved to Clinton, but we still love Jackson. Jackson is Ironghost's hometown, he was born there, raised there, graduated from high school there. I moved there when I came from Kentucky: we married there, and both our children were born there. Jackson has a special place in our hearts. We sure don't want to see anything bad or negative said about the city. And I was not intentionally bashing Clinton. I'm saying every city has their good and bad points. Clinton, while having a small-town feel and great schools, does not have the educational opportunities Jackson does. However, just surviving fianancially is much easier in Jackson, and the crazy rules I mentioned above aren't there.

Author

Lady Havoc

Date

2009-04-01T09:57:17-06:00

ID

145381

Comment

That was a quick turnaround on the t-shirts! How much?

Author

golden eagle

Date

2009-04-01T10:14:17-06:00

ID

145385

Comment

I'm on with the PROJACK idea and tees. I've lived in Jackson 20 years, love it, don't want to live anywhere else. I do have to agree with anyone anywhere in the Metro area that we are all in this together and all need each other to thrive: the Madison cars at Parham Bridges, etc. I trained for a half marathon out on Highland Colony Parkway and along the walking trail in Ridgeland. But I too believe that living together requires we find a balance, between the rights of home and business ownership and the responsibilities of building a thriving community. I am a street captain in our neighborhood association. It is important to me that people not be allowed to park broken down cars in a yard and leave their property in disrepair and junk in their yards and let their animals run loose. All of that lowers my quality of life. As long as God gives me breath I will address this regardless of where I live. With ownership of homes or businesses in Jackson or Madison or Ridgeland or Clinton or Terry comes responsibility for the good of us all, all our property values. I do not want a Mayor telling me what kind of siding to put on my Service Station. On the other hand, I do not want a Mayor telling me that anything goes. Somewhere between the two lies high quality of life for us all. Which, I think, is what we all want.

Author

J.T.

Date

2009-04-01T10:57:47-06:00

ID

145393

Comment

Lady Havoc, I get ya'! I lean toward Both/And thinking. Either/or doesn't get it for me. We are all connected in ways various and mysterious. The stronger I get, as a city or a person, the stronger everything around me can be. And, vice versa. Which underlines the importance of those [like Kaze and the Progressives and JFP and so many unnamed others] when they empower us as Jacksonians to love and accept who we are and are becoming. The marvelous book Care of the Soul by Thomas Moore, Chapter 3 "Self-love and Its Myth: Narcissus and Narcissism"--sounds deep and it is--overlays onto entities, as well as people, his concept of narcissism: "a condition in which a person [or entity] does NOT love himself [or itself, and] this failure in love comes through as its opposite because the person tries so hard to find self-acceptance." Moore says, too, that ". . .Putting oneself down is narcessism in reverse" He says that narcissism applies to buildings, a piece of art, a city's design, a highway, a movie, a law--all these can have a tinge or even a grand streak of narcissism in them.. . . go[ing] overboard flaunting itself when its essential form is sufficient and lovable in itself. . . It is as if they feel inferior in the community of [the] other . . .and so they have to exaggerate themselves to be noticed. The Empire State Building loses no stature because buildings near it are taller and newer. It seems secure in its self-love. . ." If any of the Jackson Metro area cities are narcissistic, what is the cure, relating back to Moore: "We might say that the cure for narcissism is . . .love of one's deep soul. Or, to put it another way, narcissism breaking up invites us to expand the boundaries of who we think we are." "The secret to healing narcissism," Moore says, "is not to heal it at all, but to listen to it. Narcissism is a signal that the soul is not being loved sufficiently." I'm asking myself how I can best, as a Jacksonian, love the essence of what Jackson is and doesn't even yet know that it is and will discover it is as it learns to love itself. And, I'm stone cold sober.

Author

J.T.

Date

2009-04-01T12:59:09-06:00

ID

145399

Comment

J.T., I like that. I just wonder what you'd say if you weren't sober? ;)

Author

Lady Havoc

Date

2009-04-01T13:20:23-06:00

ID

145401

Comment

Oh, dear, Lady Havoc! :) By the way, I use of the word "love" in my next to the last paragraph loosely defined as "extending oneself in work or service for the betterment of one's self or another." A bit of a take off on Scott Peck's definition of love.

Author

J.T.

Date

2009-04-01T13:29:38-06:00

ID

145411

Comment

J.T...Incredible. I must read that book.

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-01T14:21:09-06:00

ID

145412

Comment

Kaze, I am putting my copy of the book in a plastic bag and leaving it on your front porch this afternoon. Read it and enjoy it and return it when you are finished.

Author

J.T.

Date

2009-04-01T14:46:33-06:00

ID

145414

Comment

PROJACK here! Living, eating, shopping, and working in Jackson and proud of it!

Author

chip

Date

2009-04-01T15:46:08-06:00

ID

145415

Comment

Interestingly, I walked at Parham Bridges Sunday afternoon and as I made my way through so many vehicles to get a parking place--the sun out and so many folks enjoying the tennis courts and the walking trail--I chuckled at how many of the tags were Madison County tags. I was there about two weeks ago and it was definitely full. To the point I had to park in the lot that faces Jackson Academy. And that's a good thing--1, because of health benefits and 2, it shows the world that Jackson isn't the city on lockdown because of crime like its naysayers like to say we are.

Author

golden eagle

Date

2009-04-01T16:06:13-06:00

ID

145417

Comment

Thanks Chip. Im sure more will pop up..Its time we seize the moment and declare that we ARE a great city! despite our flaws (which ALL cities have) we have plenty to take pride in. A strong attitude oozes over in ohter areas. People need to feel that spirit when they enter the city limits

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-01T16:51:04-06:00

ID

145432

Comment

I love that park!

Author

Izzy

Date

2009-04-02T08:29:32-06:00

ID

145484

Comment

Bubba, I returned your email. check it and get back at me when you get a chance. Let's get rockin with these t-shirts.

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-02T16:09:19-06:00

ID

145490

Comment

Oh and btw..thanks for the FREE promotion of our new word with your twitter blog. Keep it up.

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-02T17:42:01-06:00

ID

145491

Comment

[IMG]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/law6331/PROJACK.jpg[/IMG] I'm Jackson born and bred. I'm a second-generation Jacksonian because my mom grew up in Virden Addition. I'm ProJack through and through! BTW, when I think of the word ProJack, I picture Kaze posing with a lollipop. LOL

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-02T20:32:17-06:00

ID

145492

Comment

[IMG]http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j57/btarver_photos/PROJACKTSHIRT.jpg[/IMG] How's that?

Author

BubbaT

Date

2009-04-02T23:04:02-06:00

ID

145493

Comment

[IMG]http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j57/btarver_photos/KamikazePROJACK.jpg[/IMG]

Author

BubbaT

Date

2009-04-02T23:26:00-06:00

ID

145495

Comment

yikes Bubba LOL. that scares me. its a pic of the old angry rapper lol...I wont even SPEAK on the lollipop cmon nooow! try a new pic sans the braids and scowl LOL..and LOSE the candy

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-03T08:16:38-06:00

ID

145496

Comment

Bubba, ProJack rhymes with Kojak. Kaze can't have hair with the lollipop, man! LOL

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-03T08:39:51-06:00

ID

145498

Comment

Bubba, on the back of the tee, I think there should be a hyphen between pro and Jackson, and you should spell out the word "and" instead of using an ampersand. Also, how do you think it would look if you put Projack! in bold and justified the text.

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-03T08:42:42-06:00

ID

145502

Comment

L.W. PROJACK is one word.. used as a noun as in a "person is a PROJACK" but I think the bold letters would be cool

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-03T11:02:49-06:00

ID

145503

Comment

my bad..you meant the pronounciation on the back right? pro-jak? correct..

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-03T11:04:49-06:00

ID

145505

Comment

Actually, I meant where it says "1.To be pro Jackson." Add a hyphen between pro and Jackson.

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-03T11:33:18-06:00

ID

145506

Comment

[IMG]http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j57/btarver_photos/PROJACKTSHIRT2.jpg[/IMG] I think I got all the suggestions put in. Kaze I couldn't get the text on the definition any smaller and still be readable in the picture. The printer will be able to, if you go with something like this.

Author

BubbaT

Date

2009-04-03T11:38:16-06:00

ID

145508

Comment

Keep "Jackson" capitalized.

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-03T12:14:07-06:00

ID

145509

Comment

[IMG]http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j57/btarver_photos/PROJACKTSHIRT2-1.jpg[/IMG]

Author

BubbaT

Date

2009-04-03T12:37:48-06:00

ID

145510

Comment

Good lookin Bubba. now..what do we need to do to make them a reality? BTW..how about not putting projack at the top on the back but JUST the definition as you have it printed. and maybe one that says I AM A PROJACK..whaddya think?

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-03T12:39:47-06:00

ID

145513

Comment

Need to find a tshirt printer and take the design to them. They could modify it however you wanted it.The only printer I have ever used just had surgery Monday and is going to be out for 3 to 4 months, so I am no help there.

Author

BubbaT

Date

2009-04-03T12:55:29-06:00

ID

145516

Comment

ok. folks..who's got suggestions

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-03T13:27:55-06:00

ID

145518

Comment

Dynastics on Pascagoula St. did my band's T's. They were reasonably priced and good quality shirts. Put me down for a few when you get them ready.

Author

WMartin

Date

2009-04-03T13:48:36-06:00

ID

145519

Comment

BTW..how about not putting projack at the top on the back but JUST the definition as you have it printed. and maybe one that says I AM A PROJACK..whaddya think? It could be just the definition on the back with I AM A PROJACK! under it. Need to find a tshirt printer and take the design to them. They could modify it however you wanted it.The only printer I have ever used just had surgery Monday and is going to be out for 3 to 4 months, so I am no help there. I could publish it on my Zazzle store, and you could order them from there at any time.

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-03T14:27:18-06:00

ID

145521

Comment

Thanks. L.W. A few people suggested changing the font btw on my FB page....And suggested a skyline in the back...whaddya think?

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-03T14:43:34-06:00

ID

145522

Comment

No offense to anyone who's worked on it, but I will never buy a shirt set in Comic Sans typeface! I'd be happy to work on it off of the message boards; please feel free to e-mail me at [email protected].

Author

darren

Date

2009-04-03T14:50:31-06:00

ID

145523

Comment

[IMG]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/law6331/projackfront.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/law6331/projackback.gif[/IMG] I used the Dom font so you can get the Gist of it, but I have over 100 fonts to choose from on Zazzle and can easily change it. If you want, I can change the front to something more colorful like I did in my earlier post: [img]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/law6331/PROJACK.jpg[/img]

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-03T15:00:27-06:00

ID

145524

Comment

Don't know why the T-shirts didn't show up, so I'll resave and repost.

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-03T15:03:32-06:00

ID

145525

Comment

I know a guy who prints shirts and does a great job, young guy with lots of creativity... downside he is in Brandon . He's a PROJACK kind of guy though. Company is called Pollchap's. Email me if you want his number.

Author

chip

Date

2009-04-03T15:13:12-06:00

ID

145526

Comment

TAKE 2! http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/law6331/projackfront-1.jpg http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/law6331/projackback-1.jpg Once again, I have 100 other fonts to choose from. Also, you can get a bulk discount when you order more than one. I can leave the link on my site so that anyone can order at any time, and I can make it customizable so that anyone can pick a different shirt style, color, etc. before ordering.

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-03T15:29:25-06:00

ID

145527

Comment

anyone else think it should be an adjective and not a noun? the definition describes a quality, not a person/place/thing. front should then read "Are you PROJACK?"

Author

vince

Date

2009-04-03T15:42:54-06:00

ID

145528

Comment

Wow L.W. yours came complete with model..how'd you do that lol.. And Darren Id say go right ahead and put some ideas out there. Because you guys know me.Im about results! we're not talking about this to feel good about it lol..I want to really produce these shirts..lets get it crackin..

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-03T15:45:33-06:00

ID

145529

Comment

maybe we craft a definition that indicates it being used as an adjective AND a noun. Shouts out to the grammar gustapo Vince lol. He's a real PROJACK:-)

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-03T15:48:39-06:00

ID

145530

Comment

Wow L.W. yours came complete with model..how'd you do that lol.. The Zazzle site automatically puts models in the shirt. I could even show the model's face or change the model. anyone else think it should be an adjective and not a noun? the definition describes a quality, not a person/place/thing. front should then read "Are you PROJACK?" Makes perfect sense. If I wasn't sleep deprived, I would have noticed that. :P

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-03T16:01:16-06:00

ID

145531

Comment

bumpin' Jackson's literacy status since 1993, Kaze.

Author

vince

Date

2009-04-03T16:01:55-06:00

ID

145532

Comment

Thanks. L.W. A few people suggested changing the font btw on my FB page....And suggested a skyline in the back...whaddya think? Do you mean an outline of a skyline or an actual photo of a skyline?

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-03T16:09:36-06:00

ID

145533

Comment

Thanks vince youre a credit to sentence diagram specialists worldwide lol.. L.W. maybe an outline of the skyline

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-03T16:17:31-06:00

ID

145534

Comment

Oh how I love this. What about as a verb [I projack, do you?], adjective [a projack person], noun [it is projack]? Also, what about a skyline scene in the mix along with the sky? Isn't that where we are headed? And, guess what? We are learning that someone might want to open a tee shirting business in Jackson? Ought to be a money maker. Go PROJACK

Author

J.T.

Date

2009-04-03T16:31:26-06:00

ID

145535

Comment

Thanks J.T. Positive attitudes breed positive results. Its not a magic pill but it gets us all moving in the right direction. And fyi for the facebook fam...just because you live in the city limits or pay taxes in Jackson doesn't make you a PROJACK. As evidenced by many of the CL bloggers and conspiracy theorists here. Read the definition:-)

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-03T19:19:17-06:00

ID

145536

Comment

Gottcha, Kaze, Can't wait to see how the shirt turns out. Don't know who is doing the art work, but Susan Cox Davis, artist, [a piece of hers was used for the AIDS Benefit this year] does great abstract city scapes. One of her city scapes is hanging in the large 8th floor conference room of Watkins Ludlam Winter Stennis in the marvelous new building downtown by One Jackson Place--the building with the 3 MS writers statuary outside.

Author

J.T.

Date

2009-04-03T20:22:14-06:00

ID

145539

Comment

I like the skyline idea in the background on the front. I was thinking the same as Vince that it should be an adjective too. Vince- what have you got against Comic Sans? LOL

Author

BubbaT

Date

2009-04-04T00:33:09-06:00

ID

145545

Comment

Comic Sans apparently is not the fan favorite lol. another quality of a PROJACK fyi.. "Knows that there is a decided difference between being CRITCAL and being NEGATIVE. CRITICAL wants a solution. NEGATIVE likes being NEGATIVE" who knows the difference?

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-04T09:00:26-06:00

ID

145550

Comment

The only thing I will add is that shirts should be made and bought locally, not online. Let's be Pro-Jack with our money, too.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2009-04-04T11:51:07-06:00

ID

145552

Comment

Donna, my Zazzle store may be online, but I am still a Jacksonian and would like to help. All the designs are created by me. The only difference is that the T-shirts would be printed and shipped by Zazzle. I get the commission, which I will gladly spend in my hometown. It's not much different from having a local printing company do it because the T-shirts themselves are not manufactured in Jackson. Even if they bought the shirts in Jackson, the textile company that put the shirts together is not in Jackson. As you can tell, I would really like to help. :) However, if Kaze prefers an in-house company, I have no problem with that and am still willing to give input.

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-04T14:46:58-06:00

ID

145553

Comment

Yeah. I'd prefer that this money stays in Jackson. We have many reputable designers, print shops, and vendors in town. I've used many. Beginning to end I want those t-shirts done here.

Author

Kamikaze

Date

2009-04-04T15:10:16-06:00

ID

145554

Comment

Okay, thanks. Hopefully one day I'll be able to afford to do all my printing here, but I don't have the resources yet.

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-04T15:20:48-06:00

ID

145555

Comment

Also, please let me know who you are going with because I would like some advice from them on how they got started. At this time, I just don't have the money to rent a location, buy equipment, etc., but I would like to know what they did so I can plan for the future. I must admit that I am crestfallen about not being able to help produce these shirts, but I'll get over it.

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-04T15:29:46-06:00

ID

145558

Comment

Guys, please don't laugh--I just realized the words: "hold your city down." In the terminology I use, that is a bad thing. It means to hold something back, deter it, keep it from progressing. Is it a today's term that now means the opposite?

Author

J.T.

Date

2009-04-04T17:57:37-06:00

ID

145559

Comment

Okay, now that I'm done having my pity party, I see that you guys are absolutely right. You need a brick-and-mortar place with a Jackson address to prove how PROJACK you are to those who may look for something to scoff at, and let's not give them any ammunition. My dreams are not dead, though. One day, I'll have my own, and you'll be looking for me. :) J.T., "holdin' it down" is interpreted by some as keeping things together or making a conscious effort to protect, e.g. holding down the fort, if you've ever heard that saying. However, "hold your city down" may need to be modified for the average reader.

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-04T18:37:08-06:00

ID

145564

Comment

JACKNOSTIC (n, adj) - Someone who doesn't really know whether they're Projack or not. JACK OFF (v) - To disparage the city in a manner comparable to that of an anti-Jackson suburbanite. JACKO (n) - Someone who is Projack, sings in a falsetto, dances really well, and occasionally grabs his crotch in public. JACK FROST (n) - What we get when the weather drops below 32 degrees for any length of time. OUTBACK JACK (n) - Byram. JACK IN THE BOX (n) - The Jackson/metro area. JACK AND JILL'S (n) - A really nice place to go dancing. JACK'S CONSTRUCTION (n) - A really nice place to play pool. YOU GO BACK, JACK, AND DO IT AGAIN - Phrase referring to someone who moves out of Jackson, then has the good sense to return.

Author

Tom Head

Date

2009-04-05T04:43:29-06:00

ID

145565

Comment

L.W., it's important to remember that "shopping locally" in every way possible is vital to our city's health (not to mention our entrepreneurs). And shopping online is one of the *worst* things we Jacksonians can do (unless we are buying from local vendors online). Just as we should all go to national chains as a last possible resort (and even then, make sure they are in Jackson, whenever possible), we should vow to avoid online shopping unless it's the only way we can get something. I can't tell you how many times I've looked up a new book on Amazon and then bought it at Lemuria. If they don't have it at Lemuria, then to Books-A-Million in the city limits (where I also buy magazines if locals like McDades or Beemons don't have the ones I want). I consider it my "Shop Local" heirarchy. ;-) And, yes, Barnes & Noble fell out of it in any form when it abandoned Jackson. I did use a gift certificate there recently, but that's it. In your case, we should find you help to use your talents and passion in a locally owned business that will both benefit you and the community. Anyone who has ideas for L.W., please reach out to her. Otherwise, it sounds like you should have a contest for a design, Kaze. We could cough up the prizes probably if you'd like. ;-)

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2009-04-05T07:49:46-06:00

ID

145566

Comment

I wonder how many people who live and spend their money in Jackson work for national companies vs local ones?

Author

James Hester

Date

2009-04-05T08:49:54-06:00

ID

145567

Comment

Fewer than used to, what with all the corporate lay-offs of late. Many, many people both in Jackson and its bedroom communities work for the city or state government, and many in health care, of course.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2009-04-05T11:12:04-06:00

ID

145574

Comment

JACK OF ALL TRADES (n) - Someone who graduates from Belhaven, JSU, Millsaps, or Tougaloo with an interdisciplinary major. JACK-ASS (n) - Gluteal muscle tone formed by walking around downtown a lot. CRACKERJACK (n) - A Jackson delicacy consisting of saltines, tuna, and tabasco sauce. JACK RABBIT (n) - A Jacksonian who anxiously complains, at regular intervals, about being late. JACK KNIFE (n, v) - The gymnastic maneuver that follows losing one's balance while watching a midnight showing of Rocky Horror at the Pix/Capri, usually the result of trying to do the Time Warp in high heels for the first time. Alcohol is not infrequently involved. JACK TRIPPER (n) - The character played by John Ritter in _Three's Company_. JACK SH!T (n) - What you find on the sidewalk when leash laws aren't enforced.

Author

Tom Head

Date

2009-04-06T04:17:31-06:00

ID

145590

Comment

Tom, you have some crazy definitions!

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-06T12:15:56-06:00

ID

145591

Comment

Donna, thank you for your encouragement and advice. I still want to be able to sell worldwide, but I would like to do it here, too - "in the flesh."

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2009-04-06T12:22:19-06:00

ID

145594

Comment

This is a very entertaining discussion. I am enjoying the definitions Tom. How bout a word for a female JACKO...I mean sounds good but I probably wouldn't be grabbing my crotch.

Author

Queen601

Date

2009-04-06T12:37:20-06:00

ID

145684

Comment

I am Projack. I am interested in a ProJack T-Shirt. Let's make them available online with the proceeds going to a fund to repair and teardown dilapidated houses.

Author

Tell it!

Date

2009-04-08T09:28:26-06:00